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Old February 16th 19, 12:51 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gerald Kelleher
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Default Referencing our planet to the Sun

On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 10:34:47 AM UTC, corvastro wrote:
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 1:38:54 PM UTC-8, Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 2:00:34 PM UTC-7, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

It isn't even really that he's incomprehensible so much as he's so
****ing crazy why would anybody *try* to understand him?


Why, because I had, due to my kind heart, entertained vain hopes of leading him to
the light of reason by carefully explaining to him where he is mistaken..

John Savard


I don't see what is so attractive to him. It is just a narrow field view of the vicinity of the Sun from a viewpoint close to the Earth.

All the yearly sequences are pretty much the same - they don't even show very much of Mercury's and Venus's orbits.


It is customary for a newbie to come to this newsgroup with all guns blazing but once they settle in they blend into the usual mediocrity which plagues astronomy in the wider community.

At the juncture between geocentricity and a moving Earth in a Sun-centred system is the resolution of planetary direct/retrograde motion.

There are no reliable contributors who can explain to you how Copernicus and Galileo understood the heliocentric inference using relative speeds between the Earth and slower moving planets but not the direct/retrogrades of the faster moving planets.

These unfortunates can't even tell you why Newton's silly take on direct/retrograde motion forms the basis of his junk filled agenda by attempting to switch an observation (sun around the Earth) for daily rotation into an orbital axiom (sun through the constellations) -

"That the fixed stars being at rest, the periodic times of the five primary planets, and (whether of the sun about the earth, or) of the earth about the sun, are in the sesquiplicate proportion of their mean distances from the sun.... for the periodic times are the same, and the dimensions of the orbits are the same, whether the sun revolves about the earth, or the earth about the sun." Newton

Again, you are just another newbie and that is quaint.