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Old November 7th 17, 08:13 PM posted to sci.astro
Pentcho Valev
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Default Only Quantum Physics Can Bend the Laws of Thermodynamics?

The second law of thermodynamics has long been under attack but only for small, microscopic, quantum etc. systems:

Nature 2002: "Second law broken. Researchers have shown for the first time that, on the level of thousands of atoms and molecules, fleeting energy increases violate the second law of thermodynamics." http://www.nature.com/news/2002/0207...s020722-2.html

The truth is that MACROSCOPIC systems violating the second law of thermodynamics are COMMONPLACE - I have tried to show this in a few comments he

Zeeya Merali, The new thermodynamics: how quantum physics is bending the rules. It would take a foolhardy physicist to dare attempt to break the laws of thermodynamics. But it turns out that there may be ways to bend them. [....] There is reason to suspect that the laws of thermodynamics, which are based on how large numbers of particles behave, are different in the quantum realm. http://www.nature.com/news/the-new-t...-rules-1.22937

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