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Old December 1st 05, 07:16 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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To Brian

The real astronomical relevence of the solstices is in the
asymmetrical relationship between the length of a day equidistant to
the Equinoxes.

The length of a day on Dec 21st in both hemispheres is asymmetrical
from the length of a day on June 21st,unfortunately you insist on
referencing the Sun's position off the Earth's Equator/axis allied to
the calendar system and dispense with the asymmetry provided by
variations in orbital motion.

Hemispherical or quasi-geocentric astronomy is great if you wish to
turn the great celestial motions into a personal sideshow but oh,what
an undignified thing to do.

There is an astronomical language waiting for genuine people who accept
that the great motions cannot be bottled into a convenient
calendar/celestial sphere bottle.There is also exciting avenues open
for those who detest insincerity, pretensiousness and laziness for none
of these things can have a part in astronomy and its noble
tradition,regardless of the many imposters who deign otherwise.