On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 11:07:25 PM UTC+12, Jeff Findley wrote:
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On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 3:05:56 PM UTC+12, Jeff Findley wrote:
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I mean, you and your like minded friends act as if I couldn't
call up Bayer and buy all the carbon nanotubes I wanted

Actually, I'm not sure you can. Google search of "bayer carbon
nanotubes" gives top search results of 2013 and 2014 articles on the
subject with these titles:

Bayer MaterialScience shuts down carbon nanotubes project ...

Bayer offloads its carbon nanotube and graphene patents to ...

Bayer Exits Highly Hyped Carbon Nanotubes Business

Carbon nanotubes not commercially viable for Bayer - Chemistry World

Bayer Divests Itself From Patents For Carbon Nanotubes And Graphene

Bayer MaterialScience exits carbon nanotube business

Bayer selling carbon nanotube intellectual property to FutureCarbon

Bayer MaterialScience brings Production of Carbon Nanotubes to a Halt



So Mook, do you have a cite which says Bayer is still in the business of
selling "all the carbon nanotubes" any customer wants?

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In 2007 Bayer had the ability to ship 60 metric tons per year.
By 2011 when they exited the market due to stiff Chinese competition,
they sold out to their largest buyer, total demand was over 3100
metric tons per year. Today over 3,500 metric tons per year is being
purchased throughout the world.

It's not 2007.

True.

So, now you are telling us that you are basing your
arguments on data nearly a decade old!?!?

Its not an argument. Its a fact. When I bought CNTs I bought them from Bayer. I was relating my experience. In the intervening decade Bayer lost control of the market and sold the patents to those clients who valued them more than Bayer did. For example, working with CNTs a decade ago I developed a meanMeanwhile, an entire CNT manufacturing infrastructure arose far larger and more varied than was available in 2007. Vastly bigger than 2007. This proves my point about CNTs being a commodity. Notwithstanding the fact that Bayer exited the market.

Today you can buy from any number of suppliers - mostly Chinese
though. Sigma Aldrich offers CNTs to anyone who wants them today.

You're the one who made the assertion you could buy all the carbon
nanotubes you wanted from Bayer.

I was wrong about that. Get over it. It was based on my personal experience, and that was dated. The point remains. Namely, CNTs are commodities that can be purchased from a large variety of vendors.

You were wrong.

Of course. Bayer got out of the market because other suppliers ate their lunch and they couldn't compete.

Bayer dumped carbon
nanotubes. They didn't pan out for them.

Right. Your implication that CNTs aren't profitable per se is dead wrong. Bayer likes specialty products they dominate. CNTs became a commodity far faster than they expected, so they left the market.

And you're the one insulting others

**** you you clueless retard.

in this group saying we don't know
what we're talking about. LOL.

You don't if you say CNTs are not a commodity.

Jeff
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You are an ignorant *******.