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Old February 23rd 09, 04:37 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.space.policy,sci.physics,sci.skeptic
Ian Parker
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On 23 Feb, 12:06, jmfbahciv jmfbahciv@aol wrote:
Deirdre Sholto Douglas wrote:

jmfbahciv wrote:
Deirdre Sholto Douglas wrote:
kT wrote:
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Honestly, if science wasn't fun, the tedium would drive you insane ....
Got _that_ in one. *And the pay usually sucks...no one does
this to get rich...but the toys can make up for a lot of tedium
and late hours...at least they have so far.


What I don't understand is why the crackpots avoid all lab work.
The reason to take science classes is to be able to play in the
labs. *The lab class times were never long enough.


Their loss, our gain. *:-)


I suspect it might have something to do with ego...the few
I've run across aren't (and haven't) actually worked in science
and so they seem to think there's something demeaning about
doing benchwork...especially ghasp! in a wet lab. *In their
minds, the hands-on stuff is done to order (their order) by a
technician while they sit at a deck and think Big Ideas.


But that is no fun at all. *Testing your ideas and seeing if they
work, or more interestingly not work, is part of the fun.



I don't know about you, but I didn't go into this field to sit
behind a desk or rot in meetings (which is not to say I don't
have to do both on occasion)...I chose this path so I could
get paid for satisfying my own curiosity while playing with
some of the most expensive toys in town. *So far, that plan
has panned out nicely. :-)


Very nice :-). *I was going to grow up to be a marine biologist
but got side-traced and stumbled into the computer biz. *In order
to get things fixed "right", I went to work for a computer
manufacturer. *Every machine room was a lab.

The fundamental issue is that Fred and Deirdre are posting in a
totally destructive way. They have nothing really to say about NASA or
the singularity university. I believe they are attempting to sabotage
the new management of NASA.

What have I in fact said? All I have done is simply point out that
NASA has teamed up with Kurtzweil to carry out thre sort of things I
was talking about earlier.

Where do I want to be? More or less where the NASA management is.
Everyone seems to be losing sight of that. Everyone would think I was
advocating some sort of crackpot FTL scheme (or even a sceme to go to
Mars with present day technology!)

What's wrong with that? - Arrogance, insanity, stupidity. I would say
that all these things apply in abundance to them + one additional
thing. - TREACHERY.

I will tell you one thing Kurzweil would be welcomed into any country
in the world. He happens to be in America. The way we all seem to be
going he might well move elsewhere.


- Ian Parker