On Jan 26, 3:43 pm, "Paul B. Andersen" wrote:
Koobee Wublee wrote:

Another deflection mechanism or model is the lens effect that obeys
something similar to Snell’s law. In this case, there is no force
pulling at the photon. Thus, in a gravitational lens, where the
effect of gravity is stronger in a gradient towards the center of the
sun, the inward path will be deflected according to a force. However,
the outgoing path will be un-deflected (or deflect in the other
direction behaving like antigravity if you will but not really
antigravity). The net amount in this case is not a deflection, per
say, but a shift in the observed location of the star. shrug

Measuring the deflection of light will be plagued with serious noise
issues and challenges. If the photon deflection follows Snell’s law,
there is always a data point or two that can be interpreted as
deflection twice the Newtonian amount. That is if you are not looking
for an observed shift in position. shrug

The question is how GR bends light --- Snell’s law or gravitational
law? From the geodesic equations, clearly, GR bends light through the
gravitational law. If the curvature of spacetime does not manifest an
actual force, light bending would obey Snell’s law through shifting in
observed position. shrug

Since your two types of photon deflections now have made
it clear why measurements like this:
http://tinyurl.com/b768jbd
don't confirm GR, what more is there to discuss?

Thanks, paul, for breaking the silence. Your butt must be healing
well. :-)

First of all, the paper did not address the two types of photon
deflections. It only assumed all photon deflections as force-like.
Koobee Wublee thinks because of expecting a certain model, the
interpretations tend to be biased. shrug

Please continue corresponding. May the mother of all ass spankings
would befall upon paul in the near future. shrug

Keep talking to the only person of your intellectual calibre, Koobee.
Yourself.

Yes, it is indeed very lonely at the top after spanking the asses of
all these self-styled physicists. :-)

Oh, by the way, could you publish your JAVA applet showing both twins
travel with the exact same acceleration profile? Just let the self-
styled physicists brainstorm a cure from the inconsistent results
instead of hiding them. Hiding them is not doing science any good if
you have not figured that out yet. shrug