On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 7:42:08 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
palsing wrote:

On Monday, August 11, 2014 2:50:23 PM UTC-7, Mike Collins wrote:



You can decide whether or not this is acceptable:







https://picasaweb.google.com/1122531... noredirect=1











This link will take you to a slideshow of the views of the sun at



Hammerfest, just inside the arctic circle, at midsummer.



You can easily see how the sun, planets and stars all follow the same path



around the pole. As the sun reaches the edge of the slide the viewpoint



changes. For the southern views the projection changes to allow views of



the sun and Polaris.







This is my first try at such a slideshow. You may have to copy and paste



the link to make it work.







I chose Hammerfest rather than the North Pole because you can go there



yourself that this simulation is correct.



Mike, tell me about that arc on each frame that is labeled "+ 30". Is

that northern declination, or something else?



The reason I ask, of course, is that the Sun never gets any higher than

about 23.5 degrees north declination... just sayin'...



\Paul A



Altitude; this is a simulation using Luminos.

This is beyond fundamentalism insofar as a fundamentalist would at least recognize the apparent daily arc of the Sun ,your celestial sphere cult won't even recognize that.

This is less a question than a statement of a truly dire situation and I will repeat it -

Do any of you really wish to believe that as you look out at the familiar arc of the Sun today that Polaris will be somewhere between the Sun and the local horizon at noon ?. -

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...ole-sunset.htm


Something has to give.