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Old July 15th 17, 09:11 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gerald Kelleher
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Default Eclipse for 21st century observers

On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 8:38:16 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
Gerald Kelleher wrote:



I simply can't imagine a dour existence before all that is great in
modern technology which allows to images to circulate and despite the
experience that there isn't the slightest interest in interpretative
astronomy, it still stands that your poor creatures are willing to stick
with an identification exercise within a celestial sphere framework.

There isn't more than a little light entertainment to be gleaned from
somebody steadily misinterpreting everything the wonders is modern science
and Newtonian space flight show us. You have to realise that your constant
"discoveries" of spurious and impossible explanations of things which have
been known and explained for decades/centuries is just a type of freak
show.




The partitioning of retrograde resolutions is entirely new based on the relative terms of inner and outer planets. The geocentric astronomers to which the original Sun centred astronomers had to bend their approaches used a series of observations based on the motion of the Sun through the Zodiac which is why even the great Galileo and Kepler couldn't see what you can now -

". . . the ancient hypotheses clearly fail to account for certain important matters. For example, they do not comprehend the causes of the numbers, extents and durations of the retrogradations and of their agreeing so well with the position and mean motion of the sun. Copernicus alone gives an explanation to those things that provoke astonishment among other astronomers, thus destroying the source of astonishment, which lies in the ignorance of the causes." 1596, Mysterium Cosmographicum Kepler

"Now what is said here of Jupiter is to be understood of Saturn and Mars also. In Saturn these retrogressions are somewhat more frequent than in Jupiter, because its motion is slower than Jupiter's, so that the Earth overtakes it in a shorter time. In Mars they are rarer, its motion being faster than that of Jupiter, so that the Earth spends more time in catching up with it. Next, as to Venus and Mercury, whose circles are included within that of the Earth, stoppings and retrograde motions appear in them also, due not to any motion that really exists in them, but to the annual motion of the Earth. This is acutely demonstrated by Copernicus . . ." Galileo

That is why the upcoming eclipse and many more to come have a new significance as they show the inner planets as they move with the Sun front and center -

http://www.zam.fme.vutbr.cz/~druck/e...Tse1997uw2.png

To refer the inner planets to the central Sun means shifting the apparent motions of the background stars from left to right of the central Sun as a means to account for the orbital motion of the Earth and that is the key difference that should be celebrated for what it is. I take pride in what modern imaging can do and how to transmit it almost immediately, what you have pride in I neither know nor care.