On Sunday, August 10, 2014 11:30:22 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
On Sunday, August 10, 2014 6:02:00 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:

Gerald, the world must be one giant riddle to you.

EVERYTHING in the sky appears to rotate around Polaris and there is nothing to be done about it.

The daily arc of the Sun from East to West is in the opposite direction to circumpolar motion...

Well, that is just plain silly. After all, the fixed stars also arc across the night sky from east to west, just like EVERYTHING else in the sky. What are you thinking?

The Earth is turning on its axis, for crying out loud. Sure, the distance of the Sun and moon from the pole slowly changes throughout the year and month, respectively, but over the course of a day that change is relatively small. You have again picked the wrong battle, this one is easily observed and measured and you don't have a leg to stand on.

The only possible variations in the arc of the Sun are from the same latitude with the arc getting smaller towards the Equator towards the winter Solstice in whatever hemisphere the observation is being made -

http://www.astronomy.org/programs/se...ing-sun-sm.gif

Apparently you didn't notice in that link that the observer is facing South! In the winter the Sun is well south of the celestial equator, and those arcs are getting smaller as they approach the south celestial pole. The very biggest arc would be at the summer solstice, when the Sun is at a declination of zero degrees, right on the equator, equidistant from either pole. Check out these star trails...

http://astronomy.nmsu.edu/tharriso/a...startrails.jpg

..... which includes stars from each hemisphere. Note that stars near the equator are the ones that travel in essentially a straight lines! Since the Sun is north of the celestial equator for half the year and south for half the year, this means that 50% of the time it is circumpolar to Polaris at the north celestial pole and half the time circumpolar to the south celestial pole, and as it gets farther and farther from the celestial equator the Sun's arcs get a smaller and smaller radius.


If you can insert the Sun's motion into a circumpolar arc from horizon to horizon with Polaris at the center then good for you

Well then, good for me, because this is the way it really is, at least for half a year at a time.

There is a big difference between having difficulties translating apparent motions into actual motions as opposed to actually doctoring apparent motions to suit a conclusion. In your case,putting the Sun in circumpolar motion and varying the arcs from smaller at the Poles to widest at the Equator is easily the most explicit indication of a cult with all its destructive agendas.

Again you are making an incorrect assumption. NO ONE is translating apparent motion into actual motion because there is no correlation. Apparent motion is, well, APPARENT only. ALL those things we see in the sky only APPARENTLY circle Polaris in the northern celestial hemisphere. Except for some well-understood wiggles, the Sun is just moving around the center of the galaxy and that is its ONLY actual motion. What are you thinking? These concepts are just not that hard to understand.

\Paul A