On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 8:02:05 PM UTC-7, palsing wrote:

On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 6:15:00 PM UTC-8, Gary Harnagel wrote:

On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 3:08:27 PM UTC-7, Quadibloc wrote:

Also "after having an experience" implies that you accept his claims
for what he had experienced. Why would anyone be even remotely inclined
to do that?

John Savard

That was just his first experience. He had quite a few similar
experiences, many with others who corroborated them. And then there
was the Book of Mormon.

“Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the
hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the
darkness the spiritual light would shine. A piece of something resembling
parchment would appear, and on that appeared the writing. One character at
a time would appear, and under it was the interpretation in English.
Brother Joseph would read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his
principal scribe, and when it was written down and repeated to Brother
Joseph to see if it was correct, then it would disappear, and another
character with the interpretation would appear. ” (David Whitmer, An
Address to All Believers in Christ, Richmond, Mo.: n.p., 1887, p. 12.)

Yeah, right, I'll buy that!

So you believe what Whitmer said, yes? Do you believe him when he attested
to this?

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/three?lang=eng

Also...

"One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide
stupidity, there ain't nothing can beat teamwork."
- Edward Abbey

So are you saying that the more people who are involved in an effort, the
stupider the result? What about thousands of people involved in promoting
AGW?