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Old September 23rd 18, 08:51 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gerald Kelleher
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Default Neil DeGrasse Tyson headed down same loony road as Carl Sagan?

I am Catholic by culture and upbringing but the transition to Christian was not an individual decision nor can it ever be -

"Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or of human desire, but born of God." John

'Born of God' defies description because the mind is unable to fill the experience and so the journey begins to put the individual in relation to creation and especially through humanity productivity and creativity.

Despite the puffed-up nature of many here whether they call themselves atheists,agnostics, whatever - they are a product of decisions made by the Catholic Church as long as they maintain an empirical view of astronomy/terrestrial sciences. The Galileo affair specifically created the empirical subculture with all its hopeless chanting at the celestial arena so, until the Church recognises the technical and historical details which surrounded the emergence of a Sun centered system, the noise from empiricists will just grow louder.

Astronomy is safe but obscured by people who have no real feeling for the heritage we inherited from antiquity but thankfully that is now changing.