On 17/01/2020 11:41 am, Alain Fournier wrote:
On Jan/15/2020 at 19:01, Sylvia Else wrote :
On 16/01/2020 1:29 am, wrote:
Il giorno domenica 5 gennaio 2020 13:41:33 UTC+1, Sylvia Else ha
scritto:
On 5/01/2020 9:52 pm, wrote:
Il giorno domenica 5 gennaio 2020 11:03:25 UTC+1, Sylvia Else ha
scritto:
On 3/01/2020 9:57 am, wrote:
Patent granted for PNN (Non Newtonian Propulsion) in year 2000
http://www.asps.it/pat98.jpg
fromÂ*Â* www.asps.it/pnndatabase.htmÂ*Â* , www.asps.it/doni.htm


Farily safe bet that it doesn't work, which would ultimately
invalidate
it anyway. The main problem with such patents is that unscrupulous
people can use them to attract investment from those who think that a
patent is more than it is.

Sylvia.

The fact that missiles have not been able to maintain even an
outpost on the moon for 50 years gives you no suspicion.
Unfortunately, if the PNN is not financed, the human outposts on
the Moon and on Mars will remain a dream

and NASA, ESA and Musk remain with their ridicoulous rockets :-)

http://www.asps.it/nasaesa.htm


I don't follow your reasoning there. Rockets are difficult and
expensive, for sure, but that doesn't mean that there has to be
something better.

Sylvia

I hope that you or others who believe in rockets are present when in
a fundraising in which we will achieve our goals ... that is NOT THIS

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...project_build#


we will be able to demonstrate publicly how the principle of action
and reaction is violated.

AU$ 2,112 pledged of AU$ 5,648,769 goal
6 days to go.

Looks like most people know a scam when they see one.

I might be wrong but I don't think this is a scam. It seems to me that
they are genuinely trying to develop non Newtonian propulsion. And I
think that they think that they really do have a wonderful technology. I
think they are wrong and I don't think anything interesting is going to
come out of that. But it doesn't seem to me that they are trying to
commit fraud. They have a gizmo that seems to vibrate when they turn on
the switch and they do measurements on that vibrating gizmo and seem to
think that they have something. If they were scammers they would show
their gizmo actually accelerating when they flip the switch on. I didn't
see that.

Of course, you could be right. They may just be misinterpreting what
they're seeing, or indeed outright deluding themselves. But I don't know
that too much can be read into the lack of a manifestly positive result,
because a scammer would know very well that if they created a fraudulent
demonstration of that, they'd attract the kind of people who would be
capable of exposing the fraud in short order.

Better to offer a tantalising glimpse of what is offered, with promises
of great things to come that somehow never materialise. In the mean time
the money invested can be spent on the salaries of the scammers.

Sylvia.