Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:
Chris L Peterson wrote in
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 09:42:36 -0700 (PDT), "Chris.B"
wrote:

On Friday, 13 October 2017 15:47:14 UTC+2, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 03:03:46 -0700 (PDT),
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When will electrics pay a road tax for maintenance and
construction, or will all roads be toll roads?

Different places have different ways of collecting taxes for
roads. In many jurisdictions, electric cars already pay
through registration fees. Where gas taxes are used, no doubt
other methods will be developed.

A Danish professor is claiming the CO2 involved in the
construction and transport of large car batteries in China is no
better than the infernal combustion engine. The main problem is
the continuing use of coal fired energy in China for vehicle and
battery construction. There may well be a long time lag until
the electric car overtakes the gas guzzler.

Charging the car battery using coal-fired, power stations at
their eventual destination is hardly CO2 neutral either. A
better [CO2] scenario is wind or solar powered recharging. Best
of all, would be small scale, local, solar power charging the
battery for the car owner from his own roof.

There would be no large and wasteful energy corporation and all
the added costs [and extra CO2!] Particularly where they are
demanding their quarterly bills be paid from whichever fuel is
considered cheapest regardless of CO2 efficiency. Importing fuel
for energy production, from right around the world, is hardly
'green' or CO2 neutral. It often has a green or political
negative attached as some despot fells his nation's inherited
forests. It's all about recognizing the full lifetime, CO2
footprint, rather than wishful thinking.

I'll just have to keep pedalling my bike until I am crushed by
the weight of all awards and financial benefits from a grateful
society. Why can't I sell my CO2 savings to VW diesel guzzlers?
;-)

Also worth considering that carbon sequestration is an option
for fossil fuel powered plants, but not really for individual
vehicles. We don't need to be all non-fossil for electric
vehicles to put a dent in the carbon released into the
atmosphere.

Natural gas is rather cleaner than coal (and cleaner for the energy
produced than gasoline in a car, too), too, and already is used to
generate more electricity.

Cost is a big, big issue, though, for the consumer.


It still burns to CO2 and the methane escapes during natural gas extraction
have a much stronger greenhouse effect than CO2. It’s a step forward but
not the answer.
Much better in cities than petrol and diesel.