Andrew W wrote:
"R Kym Horsell" wrote in message ...
Andrew W wrote:
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It seems the govt has "known all along" that something was up and --
as someone famously said recently -- "downplay it at every
opportunity because I didnt want to cause a panic".
The secrecy was ostensibly -- as they allays say -- for "our own good".
If we the people found out there was a superious society hanging around
with advanced tech, advanced science, advanced economics, and advanced
a lot of other stuff, we'd just give up.
The same happened again and again as Europeans "conquered" the rest of
the world over the last 1000 years.
It's boot on other foot times.
Yep. But I don't entirely buy the govt's popular excuse that they don't want
to release UFO info because it would cause panic, because with all the
problems our govts cause - finance crashes, wars, the War of the Worlds
broadcast, etc. etc. etc., why would they care if the chattel panic? Panic
of the chattel is good for business. Do they care about us that much?

As youve touched on -- maybe the panic would be so widespread and
"of the wrong sort" that investments in certain things would become
stranded and the power structure would therefore be overturned.

When "the leaders" say they "have your best interests at heart"
then I'm sure we all smell the poop.

It seems fortunate that the data shows "whatever is going on"
seem to deliberately leave very light footprints.
Numbers I've run indicate they fly defensively, with different types
of objects keeping their distance from air bases as if they dont want
to run into military aircraft or get hit by G2A missiles.
And the good ETs don't want to affect our development. And I think it's more
they want us to make sovereign decisions about our future.

It's a possibility. It sure seems beside doing whatever else
they're up to they are looking at lots of stuff we are doing.
As I mentioned before their wandering around seems to have footprints
they seem interested in mostly certain types of countries and maybe are
mentally "giving the human race a grade out of 100".

Or it could be purely in their own interests of survival here-abouts.
The data suggests there might only be a small number (10k) of "objects"
flying around over the last ~100y and the associated population to
support them -- simplistically based on the way our own industry works --
suggests there may be a largish number of them around. Maybe mns
of individuals. If they have a home here they may be keeping tabs on
the wildlife and making sure their way of life will continue into the future.

Considering all the ideas that have been proposed (that I've heard of
I'm still coming down on a bunch of people of some kind -- maybe
some kind of lost human civilization; maybe someone from pre home sap
era that migrated down into the earth and later oceans.
Or maybe totally non-human. Maybe non-biological ("old machines that wend
feral").

It might be a bunch of pressure-loving jellyfish from a big planet or some
other local object, someone from further out in the commet belt, or maybe
maybe interstellar.

Of course it could be a mix of any of these things.

But it seems someone associated with UAP are using plankton. If they
are eating it then sounds like their biology is pretty close to Earth std.
Of course they may be using just for solar power gathering.

Hopefully I'll be around long enough to find out which. Or twiddle up
some s/w that can trace down all the many many causal chains and come
up with a list of "most likely" explanations and spit out a probability
for each.

Some poeple claim to be "excited" by the unknown. I'm mostly
excited when I find out something I thought was true is wrong and I
have learned something new.

There is 0 correleation between observed UFO activity and airline crashes
despite all the stories of objects blocking, diving on, or trailing
passenger planes.
That's right. We're perfectly adept at crashing aircraft.

I was a bit surprised all the reports of bright lights buzzing airliners
or suddenly appearing in the path of a plane causing it to
swerve to avoid a crash had no noticable effect in 50+ years
of data. But it might be like crossings where they remove the lights and
SUDDENLY everyone looks both ways before trying to cross.

There is 0 corr between UFO activity and US power outages despite
the stories of objects hovering over wires and power plants
and "sucking the power out of" car batteries and other devices.
Yes but there's much correlation with UFOs being near missile bases and
missiles malfunctioning.

I'm sure there are cases. But the overall data of 1000s of sightings
shows the density in e.g. states further away from
concentrations of AFB rise i.e. going toward AFB they fall.

If you take a US state X and look at how many sightings are in
states further and further away they roughly follow a pattern:
number of sightings in *other* state Y = A - B/r^a
where A and B are constants (A obviously is "close" to the number
of sightings in X). R is the distance between X and Y and "a"
is another number that tips off how "threatened" objects seem to
feel by being closer to X where there are N air bases.

Sightings dont not go to zero *at* an AFB but the pattern is clear.
Sightings of certain types of object show they calculate a kind of
threat that is inversely proportional to the distance from an AFB.
I.e. "a = 1". (Army bases they seem to care nothing about .
What is inversely proportional to the distance from an air base?
The flight time of an aircraft from that base.

Some object types seem to drop off with the inverse square of the distance
to air bases. (I.e. "a=2"). This suggests they are defensive about something
that covers the *area* between them and the air base -- like a regular patrol.

Some objects drop off as the square root of the distance to
air bases. (I.e. "a=0.5"). Something that involves the square root of the
distance is the transit time of a constantly accelerating object
over that distance. E.g. a missle that accelerates all the way to the target.

"Cones" seem to be scattered around like they dont care about
anything. (I.e. "a=0"). Among the choices are they dont exist and are all
mistaken reports, or they are only threatened by something that has
a rouhgly constant transit time from an AFB -- like a radar pulse
or a line-of-sight, or they are maybe so heavily protected they feel
invulnerable to missiles and jets.

One of the few things I can see in the data is a strong
(not chance) corr between UFO sightings and mass fish deaths.
I hadn't heard that. That might be radiation. I think maybe only secret
military craft spew radiation.

My mental model was they just bump into them.
I found it surprising there was statistically "0 correaltion"
between UFO sightings and mass bird deaths but a highly sig corr
with mass fish deaths (also turtles and dolphin but not whales .

Whipping around the atm at several km per sec doesnt seem to bother
the birds.

But maybe diving into lakes and ocean and tooling around at 250 kt
(a number mentioned in some Russian sub reports about Atlantic USO's)
seems to scramble the odd kipper. Whales are apparently smart or fast enough
to gits outta da way.

As for radiation -- it seems "they dont like it". Sightings tend
to drop off when neutron counters around earth register some big event.
Mostly neutrons come from the upper atm as very high energy
cosmic ray particles smack into air molecules. But they obv do come from
other sources. I had suspected at some point maybe neutrons were
being generated by Our Friends From Frolix 8. But I have no
good data to show that.


And there's a strong corr bwteen the coming and going of phytoplankton
(not zooplankton) and UFO sightings. A prelim finding suggests
there may be "missing" phytoplankton a couple times a year
that corresponds with numbers of UFO sightings.
(The so-called "gavity satellites" allow us to weight various areas
of the oceans and calculate the mass of the phytoplankton bloom and
track tiny ripples in it that correlate strongly with sighting data).
If you cain trust a vegitarian, who *can* you trust.
Another little wrinkle an AI came up with last week was
finding patterns in fish deaths country by country.
Assuming more anomalous mass deaths == more local UFO activity
it ranked countries from least to most affected, then asked itself
what properties of those countries "best explained" the pattern.
Again I hadn't heard that.
Amazingly the #1 property was the amount of renewable power
countries use. The more renewables the more anomalous fish deaths.
Hmm. Could that be the shadow govt. wiping out some of a country's food
source because the country is turning away from using the cabal's oil etc.
based energies?
The rest of the list suggests UFOs are damn greenies wanting to
promote public health, mass vaccination and zero population and
economic growth.
I don't know about that. I do know many good ET groups want us to use better
technologies to save the planet and make life better for everyone.

UFO groups must be alien fronts and part of the conspiracy!

Sure. Circular economics only makes sense. We're well past the point of
"obviously we cant go on throwing away plastic cups for *another* 100 years".

You can now kinda see why "the authorities" might just be a little
nervous not to let anyone find out such details.
But too bad, all the data is public.