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Old September 29th 03, 01:57 PM
Dave Fowler
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Default MSNBC (JimO) Scoops more Inside-NASA Shuttle Documents

(Stuf4)

I prefer science ruled by reason rather than majority. Arguments
rooted in emotion can trend toward Spanish Inquisition techniques at
the expense of science.


You're trying to deflect attention from your deficiencies by a) changing the
focus of the issue, and b) crying that you're being abused, just because you're
being help to some standards of logic and proof. I'm sure we're all very sad
for you.

If NASA does launch seven astronauts on STS-114, then it will be a
departure from previous strategies of "ramping up" the crew size
(along with the post-51L example cited, safety concerns from the very
beginning of the shuttle program could be discussed).


There is no such doctrine that I am aware of.

Whatever the case, I am sure, Dave, that you recall how you chose to
continually harrass me with your "insider information" that Ilan Ramon
was a Mission Specialist in blatant rejection of my position that he
was a PS.


CB in fact had him tagged as an MS on several internal documents. That is a
fact. The fact that he was always functionally a PS, and eventually flew with
that designation, does not change that fact.

If some other member had posted the comment:

"The current plan is for a crew of 6-7."

...we can imagine how such a comment would be rebutted with persistent
harrassment along the lines of:

"If you can't back up your statement with verifiable facts, then
withdraw the
comment."

It's sad enough to see no hesitation in your repeated attacks, but on
top of that you don't even hold your own posts to the "standards" you
demand from others.


For God's sake, see the Oberg article that this thread began with. He and I
know many of the same people from which this information arose.

And stop being so purposefully dense.

I will be glad to reconsider the position I have offered here
regarding STS-114 crew size, but I expect to see more progress
accomplished through reason rather than abuse.


You have never in the history of this forum reconsidered anything. You just
weasel out of previous stances, ignore that you stated them, or try to change
the subject.

That's not abuse, that's pointing out your pathetic passive-aggressive tactics.

DF