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"jacob navia" wrote in message...
Le 30/03/12 00:48, a425couple a écrit :
In the USA (as is in Canada, Australia, and most of Western Europe)
the death rate from malnutrition is 1 per 100,000 or less.
(and many of those in US who died in this way was parential
neglect - not lack of food available).
So, please inform me where a "lot of people" in the USA,
are "suffering endlessly" from an major cause of human
suffering = starvation.


1) This is not a new problem. Here is an article of the Journal
of the American Medical Association (JAMA) of 1985:


I agree it is "not a new problem".
Even older than your 27 year old cite, is:
"Blessed is he that considers the poor.
The Lord delivers him in the days of trouble" Psalms 41,1
"For you will always have the poor with you" Mathew 26,11

Severe Primary Malnutrition in US Children
• We studied 16 children aged 18 months or less who had severe primary
protein-calorie malnutrition. All were admitted to one urban pediatric
teaching hospital for treatment of failure to thrive between Jan 1, 1980,
and Aug 30, 1984. The definitions of malnutrition were based on those of
the Wellcome Trust. The patients had no evidence of medical causes for
their conditions and grew rapidly when they were refed in the hospital.
Eight were products of teenage pregnancies. Eleven patients were receiving
public aid, ----


We were talking about a nation of 313,000,000 people,
and "lots of people", and you come up with a study of 16!!

Clearly to me, the simpleton's solution of just throwing
more money at the problem (we spend plenty on it) is not
the solution. The money we send is often spent inefficiently.
The problem is education. Wholesome nutritious meals
can be cooked in a very cost efficient manner.
How in a free society can you force these parents
to learn how to, and then choose to, and then continously
cook proper meals for their children?

And, one on the flip side of that coin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood_obesity
"United States - The rate of obesity among children and adolescents
in the United States has nearly tripled between the early 1980s and 2000.
---- In 2008, the rate of overweight and obese children in the United States
was 32%, "
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5828a1.htm
"Obesity Prevalence Among Low-Income, Preschool-Aged Children ---
United States, 1998--2008
Childhood obesity continues to be a leading public health concern that
disproportionately affects low-income and minority children (1). Children
who are obese in their preschool years are more likely to be obese in
adolescence and adulthood (2) and to develop diabetes, hypertension,
hyperlipidemia, asthma, and sleep apnea ---
Reducing childhood obesity will require effective prevention strategies
that focus on environments and policies promoting physical activity and
a healthy diet for families, child care centers, and communities.
PedNSS is a state-based surveillance system that monitors the nutritional
status of children from birth through age 4 years enrolled in federally
funded
programs that serve low-income children."

2) Malnutrition killing elderly in U.S. An article in CNN from June 2nd
Researchers from Louisiana State University examined data from 3,141
counties and older adult malnutrition mortality using Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention data. Between 2,000 and 3,000 older adults die
from malnutrition each year, according to CDC data from 2006.


Yes, that is a problem. But lack of funds is not the core issue.

As I have been through with my mother who clearly wished
to live out her life in her own home, but gradually lost the ability
to prepare proper food for herself. Individuals who care
need to properly intervene to be sure they eat adequately.
And now, I'm having to do so also, for the last of that generation,
my aunt. We had to move her (with her agreement) from where she
was living (about 1,000 miles away) to be near us so we could
ensure proper care.

THERE IS NO BLINDER PERSON AS THE ONE THAT DOESN'T WANT TO SEE!!!!!!!!!!


I see problems that can and should be addressed by individuals.
Groups helping is often very good.

I still agree with what I wrote:
From the point of view of those who lived during the sweep of
recorded human history, or the majority living in the world today,
that "suffering endlessly here in the US" seems more than a bit
myopic, and self pitying.