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Old April 12th 04, 09:36 AM
Alf P. Steinbach
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Default Black Hole exploding is a Big Bang?

* (Vincent Cate) schriebt:

How can heat generate gravity?


Consider that heat can be turned into radiation, which in turn can be turned
into ordinary mass, which has gravity. Essentially your question therefore
shows the pure Newtonian picture to be incomplete, and leads to General
Relativity or something like it. Which I think is on-topic in at least one
of the groups posted to, or at least not completely off-topic, but that's one
darned complicated theory that probably nobody understands in full, so don't
expect full, clear & illuminating answers...

A short short answer to one aspect is that even in Special Relativity when
you expand the formula for energy for an object as a series the first two
terms turn out as E = m*C^2 + 0.5*m*v^2 + ..., where the first is the
energy/mass-equivalence for the object at rest relative to the chosen
coordinate system, and the second is the ordinary kinetic energy, relative.
So assuming the two or three basic premises of the theory to hold wrt. to
reality the math, as just a logical consequence of those premises, spits out
that motion is energy and energy is mass. So far there is every reason,
including a large number of very fine measurements, to assume that is so,
but even with all that confidence there are still very expensive experiments
being undertaken to further verify it or disprove it (one such, a space-based
gravitational probe, is scheduled for the 17.th of April this year, IIRC).

A short short answer to another aspect is that I have not the foggiest idea
how radiation is converted to and from velocity (which heat is all about).
That is, the physical mechanism -- and I suspect nobody understands that
in full, either. This little conversion at least _seems_ to lie squarely in
the extremely poorly understood gray zone between GR and quantum mechanics,
e.g. consider a 5 meter wide photon from Andromeda as an electromagnetic
wave that suddenly, at some point in the middle, interacts with an electron.

Perhaps some of the experts can help out.

I'm just a newbie relying on common sense & old high-school-level knowledge.

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