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Old April 6th 04, 12:38 AM
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Default A new book about sentience


Just thought I would present some information about the contents of
the book



A) *** Say a little bit more about what the theorem on all souls is
about ***

Case 1. Ten years ago Aunt G was crogenically frozen at death, and a
190 years from today she will successfully be unfrozen and brought
back to life. She will indeed be successfully brought back to life 190
years from today. That is a given in case 1.

Case 2. Here is the other situation. Aunt G died 10 years ago. It was
a "regular" death: there was no cyrogenesis or anything special.

I and many others too, would feel, or sense, or believe, or think, or
be sure that there is a difference, a "real" difference between these
two cases - a difference in the nature of things.

The theorem in the book states that in terms of the "nature of things"
there is no difference whatsoever between 1 and 2. To me, that is
surprising. But that is what some theorems do. They state surprising
results.

(Since the book tries to be technical, in spite of our current
difficulty with various words and understanding, the "nature of
things" is phrased as something like "the state of Aunt G's sentience
in the fabric of the universe").

In (1), I would see Aunt G as waiting to come back. I don't mean I
would sort of see it. I would really and fully see and feel and
believe that. To me, it would be natural to see, feel, and believe
that Aunt G was in some kind of state of waiting. But by the theorem,
I do see and feel and believe that, as far as reality, the same is
true in situation (2). In the nature of things, the two situations are
identical.

Well, that is what the theorem is stating. (The proof is in the book,
the first appearance of chapter 32, and it is currently on the website
too).


B) *** What do you mean by "soul"? ***

(1) The book's preface states that the words "soul", "sentience",
"consciousness", "mind", "awareness", "I-ness", "being" are words
that have different nuances, and in places more than differences in
nuance, but they all swirl around the underlying mystery that this
book approaches. In other words, these words are used pretty
interchangeably in terms of the analysis in the book. The difference
between these words is not what this book is delving into.

(2) The book attempts to list characteristics or properties of what we
take to be mind (that is, soul, sentience, being, consciousness, and
so on). To list characteristics or properties is one scientific
approach, especially when one is trying to establish a foundation for
science moving into a new area.

The fabric of the universe could also be phrased as "the nature of
things." Not only that, but in science, some of the most important
features of the nature of things can appear as un-understandable magic
(see the sections on Fizeau and Newton).



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"The Soul and the Fabric of the Universe"
http://soul.mav.net