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Old November 18th 17, 05:45 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gerald Kelleher
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Default Venus and Jupiter

On Saturday, November 18, 2017 at 12:20:29 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
Gerald Kelleher wrote:
We can only see to the left and right of the stationary Sun during a
total eclipse otherwise humanity references the motions of the faster
moving Mercury and Venus after they enter the circle of illumination
(dusk) or just as they exit it (dawn).


No! Venus can be seen at noon on many cloudless days.


Good for you however the transition from the left to the right in front of the Sun and from right to left behind the Sun accounts for direct/retrograde motions and the graphics adequately express the loop of Venus and Mercury as they run their smaller and inner circuits -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFrE7hWj0A

You have to be completely dull to ignore what is in front of you in terms of graphics or actual imaging show how the phases create the closed loop for Venus seen from a slower moving Earth -

http://www.popastro.com/images/plane...ary%202012.jpg