On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 2:11:19 AM UTC, palsing wrote:
On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 11:21:20 AM UTC-8, Gerald Kelleher wrote:

It doesn't matter if ignorance,unfamiliarity or silliness is pleaded...

So, are you pleading ignorance, unfamiliarity or silliness? That, after all, would explain your penchant for rambling on ad nauseum about subject matter that you know virtually nothing about...

Your natural intuitive faculties are simply so weak that anything outside magnification and identification of celestial objects within a rotating celestial sphere framework is going to register as distress rather than satisfaction.

When you encounter Newton's absolute/relative time, space and motion, it is rigging observations in tandem with timekeeping to suit RA/Dec modelling so even cause and effect of each weekday rotation is sacrificed to maintain observations of objects rising and setting each day. It has become worse as this clockwork solar system has spread to computer modelling so even observations are manipulated to suit nasty notions like the 'Sun crossing the celestial equator' -

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap170319.html

If you have decent intuitive faculties much less a powerful sense of what works and what doesn't, you would be repulsed by that pivoting circle of illumination, a spinning moon, the awful subversion of direct/retrogrades resolutions and many other things.