"Paul AnalSinger" aka "palsing" wrote:
which means in ancient
Roman lingo: "House of saggy ass cheeks", wrote:

I still say black holes ( and event horizons et al ) are essentially
theoretical.

Theoretical, sure, but yet, there is plenty of evidence that black holes
exist. For example...

https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~narayan...McClintock.pdf

It is up to you to provide evidence to the contrary, if you can.

"Sam Wormley" wrote on 9-Jan-2016:

Raymond Yohros wrote:
i'm surprise that you,Sam, cannot see how a BH can
produce thermonuclear reactions that can give birth to a star

"Sam Wormley" wrote:
Stars are created by the collapse of gas (mostly hydrogen).
Nothing comes out of black holes, Raymond.

hanson wrote:
Sam, "Nothing comes out of black holes", because there is
Nothing there in the first place... Duh!..... ROTFLMAO!

Black holes are Sci-Fi products to excite the Public
and to beguile Einstein Dingleberries in their worship
of Albert's Sphincter.

The term BH was colloquially coined & used to describe
the region of the Barycenter, which is the COMMON
center of rotation, out to the inner orbiting Star(matter).

Such Binary & n-body systems do exist & spin.... but
the BH region itself does not spin.
A BH is a virtual, fictitious, abstract construct of math.

In the "Wormhole" series narrated by actor Morgan Freeman.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=freeman+wormhole&qs=SC&pq
in the segment "Swallowed by a Black hole"
Astronomy Prof. Ghez explains and refers to the
__ Black hole as being the focus of these orbits---,
and "focus" being the afore mentioned "Barycenter".

If the orbiting stars are all in the same plane then
due to their mutual gravitational (n-body) attraction
amongst themselves, their Barycenter, which is their
COMMON center of rotation, appears to be flat
(lots of x & y, litte z only) and is popularly called BH.

If their rotations and orbits, also due to their mutual
gravitational (n-body) attraction amongst themselves
is random in x, y and z, then the perceived but NOT
real BH region appears to be oblate to spherical.

In all cases, these domains INSIDE the orbits of those
orbiting stars have NO mass nor matter.
**** There is nothing in there... Nothing****, ...but

when the orbiting stars reach their "tear-apart" speed
& -curvature, (aka event horizon), due to their mutual
gravitational attraction, then the so-called
"feeding of the black hole" begin and stars or gas cloud
matter gets so hot that enormous amounts of x-ray radiant
energy is released from fusion and pair annilhilation and
every conceivable reaction known to particle physics does
occur.

So, in a sense, Yohors, who bought into the misguided habits
of licking of Albert's sphincter is right in that "thermonuclear
reactions" do occur when the orbiting stars in the binary to
n-body systems are tearing each other apart, and .... make
the resulting central jets trivially explainable by the classic
right hand rule.

Those jet's are also assumed to slam into far way Gas
clouds wherein they produce shock-waves that give rise to
the birth of stars of the "next generation".

There are NO naked BHs floating around, rotating or not.

http://tinyurl.com/ykf356z Barycenters Black Holes / Ghez.
http://tinyurl.com/yjlxhtd Barycenter --- KW
http://tinyurl.com/yjbpwrh |||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 - G ||||
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