On 2 Sep 2004 20:43:45 -0700, (Alfred Einstead)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
:

Uncle Al wrote:
Moderate Mammal wrote:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996341
Mysterious signals from 1000 light years away
Exclusive from New Scientist

As reliable as "The Enquirer."

Fine. A master civilization is 1000 lightyears away. We just caught
a piece of their uncontrolled EM emission.
^^^^^^^^^^^^

That's the only EM emission anyone's ever going to catch.
Nobody(/no-thing) in their right mind(/or whatever it uses to think
with) will waste its effort intentionally sending out signals that
take eons to get anywhere.

They aren't there any more.

They're here, instead.

1000 years is a long time for things to progress... including
the discovery and engineering-exploitation of the new physics
needed to tunnel through the light barrier.

A rule of thumb to measure the pace of change and progress of
history is to use man-years (or sentinent-being-years, whatever
the case). For the Earth, 25% of all years lived up to 2001 were
lived on or after 1900; about 1/3 since the dawn of the Industrial
Era. Since then, we've gone through 2 major watersheds, each as
large as the agricultural revolution: the industrial revolution
and the post-industrial revolutions. Eons that took 10,000's of
years to pass have come and gone in a mere century or two now.

A 1000 years even at that relatively low pace of the 20th century
gives you about 2.5 times the sum total of all man-years to date.
The world, by that time, if it survives the next decade, will be
as different from now as now is from the world predating humans.

So, any civilization out there at the radio threshold 1000 years
back is either gone or already here amongst us.

For the sake of them showing, by precedent, the way our future
is headed: you'd better hope they're here, and not gone...

Anomalies reported & catalogued even by the people famous for
making "fake" crop circles:

http://www.circlemakers.org/weird_****.html

Yeah, they could discover FTL travel, and then fly out ahead of their
TV/radio wavefront, and erect huge deflectors to keep us from ever
receiving their signals.
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