"Davoud" wrote in message
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Pierre Vandevenne:
Hello,

In a way, that's scary

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal.../4341062a.html

Semantical translation, quantum leap, whatever... We'll soon be at the
"who
designed the designer" level...

I think that the noise being made by the religious right is a death
rattle. The Universe is not going to magically become 6,000 years old,
and they know it.

On the other side of the coin, I don't see any evidence that the universe is
really billions of years old. We have two schools of thought here that are
similar in one way: both ages come from man. Man, through the disciples,
wrote The Bible with Divine guidance; and it has also been man who has
determined the age of the universe in the billions of years. Are we so
sure that radiocarbon and other methods of dating aren't invalid? Are we so
sure that The Bible is correct? The point is... no matter how you look at
it, you must pick what you believe is the most correct and depend on man's
correctness (or lack thereof).

To me, there's just as much "evidence", if you will, that the universe is
6,000 years old that there is 20 billion and I remain unconvinced by the
so-called evidence that it is anything but. However, that is my "belief"
just as you must "believe" that it's 20 billion.


Mainstream Christians, both Protestant and Catholic,
have long since come to terms with the fact that the Universe is about
14 billion years old, and the Earth about 4.5 byo.

Not necessarily.

The religious right
will not be able to undo evolution.

I see nothing... absolutely nothing... that convinces me that evolution is a
fact or ever has been. They say they find skeletons of ancient ape-like man
that are our nearest relative and what we supposedly were before "evolving"
into modern man, but do we know for sure that that species just wasn't
another type of gorilla? No one alive knows the answer.

They see themselves as becoming
more and more marginalized, and they are circling the wagons -- but the
circle is closing in on them.

Is it the Christians finding themselves in this position- or the athiests?
I'll tell you one thing, if I were an athiest, I really would be concerned
at this current time in history.

Clayton

Davoud

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