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Old December 3rd 08, 08:06 AM posted to sci.space.station,sci.space.history
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Default Russian moon landers


On Nov 30, 4:35 am, wrote:
Sorry to be so off topic. I am interested in finding a video or still
pictures from that video that was taken by an astronaut during a moon
landing. It included a view of a Russian moon lander. The video might
have been the personal property of the astronaut. I hope it is
available somehow for viewing. Do any of you know about it?


Well, the one that I am thinking of was filmed before the braking
rockets had been fired, while the U.S. vehicle was still moving over
the moon' s surface (the approach to the landing site of the U.S.
vehicle). The U.S. vehicle landed quite a ways from the Russian craft.
The crew never visited the site of the Russian lander. The Russian
craft had done a pinpoint landing in the center of a very interesting
lunar outcropping. The lunar outcropping was almost square at the top
and sloped outwards to the lunar surface. I saw it on T.V. during the
approach to the landing site of the U.S. craft.

I have downloaded a PDF file of Russian Moon landers and it was
probably Luna 18 or Luna 20 that was filmed. I am more interested in
the film of the place where the lander was sitting.


A few years ago I saw a "documentary" about Apollo. During the landing
of one Apollo LM it was said that Houston had concern about a Soviet
moon probe (Zond or Luna) on flight at the same time an area. Then
the we saw a small object crossing the stars and the speaker said
something like "they missed the Apollo craft, it was no danger".

From what I know of satellite or a/c imaging, I`m very sure that
film sequenz was a fake! Except in rendevous condition, you can never
image a space probe with such detail (you realy saw a body of some
simple shape, more like a ICBM reentry vehicle than a satellite - IIRC)
and such low speed against the star background. And you never get such
a good tracking film from a handheld camera like they suggested from
the LM.

Not only this film was fake, the situation was too. There was a Soviet
probe on the way. But there never was any danger of collision. The
only possible concern could be radio com frequency interferences. But
even that I consider remote, because I assume US and SU agreed on
a Luna frequency list well before.

Btw, this bad documentary (hard to find any good one this times) may
be a British production of 3 (?) part telling the story of von Braun
and Korolev as a race for space. I remember some faked shots of
the N-1 to.

I saw images of the Soviet rovers from lunar orbit taken by Apollo CM.
One with some tracks and one with both together at the meeting point.


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