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Old December 1st 08, 01:32 PM posted to sci.space.station
Vincent D. DeSimone[_2_]
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Default Russian moon landers

Sorry to be so off topic. I am interested in finding a video or still
pictures from that video that was taken by an astronaut during a moon
landing. It included a view of a Russian moon lander. The video might
have been the personal property of the astronaut. I hope it is
available somehow for viewing. Do any of you know about it?


Well, the one that I am thinking of was filmed before the braking
rockets had been fired, while the U.S. vehicle was still moving over
the moon' s surface (the approach to the landing site of the U.S.
vehicle). The U.S. vehicle landed quite a ways from the Russian craft.
The crew never visited the site of the Russian lander. The Russian
craft had done a pinpoint landing in the center of a very interesting
lunar outcropping. The lunar outcropping was almost square at the top
and sloped outwards to the lunar surface. I saw it on T.V. during the
approach to the landing site of the U.S. craft.

I have downloaded a PDF file of Russian Moon landers and it was
probably Luna 18 or Luna 20 that was filmed. I am more interested in
the film of the place where the lander was sitting.


If I assume that you are referring to a filming of a Soviet Luna landing
_site_ instead of the landers themselves, both of those landing sites (as
well as several others) were filmed. However, the film camera attached to
the LM window was activated only during the last few minutes prior to
landing because the LM itself was in a windows-up configuration (facing
space) during all but the last couple of minutes of its engine burn. Prior
to the final engine burn, the LM did spent quite a bit of time in a
windows-down orientation, but the camera usually was not operating.

OTOH, there were film cameras in the Command Module of all of the Apollo
lunar flights. Plus, in Apollo's 15-17, the Service Module had a panoramic
camera whose photos were spliced into movies after their flight. I remember
seeing a number of films made of the lunar surface by all of those cameras
and one of them is probably the film you're thinking of.

There are three sources that you can check. Spacecraft Films has excellent
(but pricy) DVD sets of all of the lunar flights, including films of the
lunar surface taken from orbit by Apollo's 8 and 10-17. They are available
at http://www.spacecraftfilms.com.

Another possibility is to check the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal at:

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/

which has lots of images and films taken by Apollo's 11-17. Lastly, check
out the Apollo Flight Journals at,

http://history.nasa.gov/ap08fj/

for more information on Apollo's 8, 12, 15, and 16.

BTW, you're right about this being off-topic. Try bookmarking
sci.space.history and sci.space.policy, which are excellent places to visit
and ask questions that are more on-topic.

Good luck!