On Oct 29, 4:31 am, "Chris.B" wrote:
On Oct 16, 2:03 am, Hank Kroll wrote:
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Whether man made global warming is true or not is immaterial in the
American context: It gives us enormous pleasure to know that the
largest abuser of dwindling energy reserves pays many times over for
every barrel. First it pays its despotic enemies over the top for the
oil knowing that the customer is not remotely respected. Then it pays
for a second time for the security measures to keep the oil reserves
safe. It pays for a third time for the massive security measures to
protect itself from the citizens/terrorists who aren't allowed even a
tiny stake in the fabulous wealth oil generates for the dictators. It
pays for a fourth time to fight illegal wars in the hope of getting
its hands on cheap oil. It pays for a fifth time in the loathing and
disgust with which America is held by the civilised world. It pays for
a sixth time in the loss of revenue to health and social security
services which would help its citizens live safe and comfortable
lives. It pays for a seventh time when the oil rich nations buy up its
important property, businesses and service industries cheaply using
money given them by America. It pays for an eighth time in the ill
health the oil causes in smog and pollution. It pays for a ninth time
in the despoiling of the seas by corrupt businesses carrying the oil
at least cost and highest profits by employing non-American sailors
and staff. It pays for a tenth time for the lack of timely investment
in alternative energy sources. It pays for the eleventh time reducing
global warming while still employing century old technologies. It pays
a twelfth time for the loss of productivity while workers sit in cars
in traffic jams despite the massive investment already made in roads.
It pays for a thirteenth time for the loss of lives due to present
transport systems and the wasteful policing of them. It pays for the
fifteenth time for the interest rates it pays on borrowing to buy the
foreign oil in the first pace. It pays a sixteenth time for the damage
done to the beauty of unspoilt coasts and countryside by oil
exploration. It pays for a seventeenth tie in the national stress of
electing losers as their representatives knowing they cannot reduce
the price of gas at the pumps or oil for home heating. It pays for an
eighteenth time in importing cars which people actually want to drive
instead of what is offered by their time-locked, early 20th century
car makers. It pays for a nineteenth time in making the roads unfit,
unhealthy and unsafe places for walkers, joggers and cyclists. It pays
for a twentieth time in all the things it cannot afford to do because
it is sucking the planet dry of oil it can no longer pay for with
cash. Etc, etc, etc, etc.

Etc, etc, etc, etc:

Did you happen to mention the ultimate payment in the flow of blood
and guts of the mostly poor and innocent?

Did you mention the commercial consumption of fresh water in the
process of preparing and proper combustion of fossil fuels (especially
of coal, although even natural gas needs fresh water)?

Did you mention the inevitable oops factors of fossil fuel
exploration, mining, drilling, transporting and processing that
doesn't always go according to plan? (we're talking of body counts
plus downwind or downstream contaminations and subsequent [always
negative] environment and human DNA plus other health consequences)

Did you perchance mention the global commute mileage per day that's
continually taking place specifically due to the task of fossil energy
explorations, the establishing of new and improved as well as damage
replacement infrastructure for the ongoing extractions, of their many
pipes, pumping stations, rail and ship transporting, essential
processing of solids, fluids and gas elements, consumer packaging and
final distributions?

What about our using failsafe thorium instead?

What about a maximum effort of fully renewable alternatives?

What about a 10 fold improvement to our national power grids?

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / Guth Usenet