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is not.

CU 63

63 electrons.

29 electrons, actually.

Franz



Yes I know Franz, its just that I beat the crap out of them so bad
and knew there was no way that they could answer those few
simple questions so I thought I might as well allow them
to save face.
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yes you know ???
where from you know?
if you can prove that Cu has 29 electrons
*no one more no one less*, than please come back to me
all the best
Y.Porat
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http://www.webelements.com/webelemen...t/Cu/econ.html

Count em. 29 electrons.

Of course they too are still using orbits, although they are trying
to accomodate reality at the same time, by showing the orbits
as shells.

It is not in the text books, that atoms emit spherical waves,
and at the shell radius, if you intercept those waves
they will have energy equivalent to e* the atomic number.

Physicists are quite vague in their explanations of such things
as

The Time-Independent Schrödinger Equation: Eigenstates and Eigenvalues

Here, why don't you have a go for them, I am sure they would
love to hear it.

http://www.phys.virginia.edu/CLASSES..._in_a_box.html


Shall I?

The nucleus, is sending out a spherical wave, and if intercepted
at the electron shell radius, you can expect to find energy
of e * the atomic number when the atom is islolated and its rest
state.


But of course even Schrödinger did not come to the conclusion at
the time that the nulceus was sending out this wave. He just
knew it was there. So he had to somehow imagine a standing wave at
the electron radius.

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