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Old June 18th 08, 08:08 AM posted to alt.astronomy
Painius Painius is offline
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Default accelerating universe conundrum, help me find my logic flaw please

"oldcoot" wrote in message...
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On Jun 17, 12:52 pm, "Painius"
wrote:question_!

If someone comes along with a "push" theory of any
kind, particulate or energetic, science will not even try
to begin to accept it unless the proposal is neatly and
tightly wrapped with hypercompelling evidence found
by strictly applying the scientific method.


Eggzackly. That's precisely why the VS'ers need to look at super and-
hypernovae, quasars etc., and show the hypercompelling evidence
explaining the _mechanism_ by which their geometry, 'metrics', '4-D
fields', "curvature of space-time", 'exchange particles'/"gravitons"
literally POWER these phenomena.
By contrast, the "push" force of the
hyperpressurized spatial medium very deftly and unequivocally
_demonstrates itself_ in the behavior of gravity, most notably in the
aforementioned phenomena. How much more 'scientific' does the evidence
need to be?


As i said above, much-much more scientific--the
proposal will have to be neatly and tightly wrapped
in a package of hypercompelling evidence...

found by strictly applying the scientific method!

I'm workin' on it. Of course the problem is similar
to the "Ben Franklin syndrome". That's what i call
the fact that ol' Ben got the polarity wrong when he
first described electricity. And even though his
mistake was eventually rectified, there were *still*
engineers and scientists who traced circuit current
on schematic diagrams using the old and incorrect
"positive-to-negative" direction back when i began
my tech career.

Why is this similar to the Push-Pull Gravity Debate?
Simply because for all intents and purposes, those
old engineers were still able to get the job done
even though they traced current flow from positive
to negative! So i'm still studying Newton, because
just like electrical polarity was wrong from the
beginning, so was GMF. And there might be a way
to reverse it just like someone did to the Ben F.
syndrome.

...and we
continue to bang our (fortunately very hard) heads up
against walls of steel.

And yet, the banging can be fun, educational, even
occasionally insightful. Or so i keep reminding myself.


Hyup! The Fun part is what it's all about, as i've said so many times.
Whenever it ceases being Fun is when i quit doing it (as has happened
a time or two when the NG got excessively overrun by freaks and
mutts).


Happens to the best of newsgroups sometimes.

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: Thank YOU for reading!

P.P.S.: http://painellsworth.net