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Old May 29th 08, 02:11 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.space.policy,sci.space.shuttle
BradGuth
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Default Sunspots are not a major cause of the current warming, like CO2is.

On May 28, 10:54 pm, "V-for-Vendicar"
wrote:
"Green Turtle" wrote

The problem here is you have to remember that employees of NASA's don't
pay taxes, and therefore should not be involved in using NASA's resources
to pushed those political agendas and views.


Ahahahahahahaha... Another Factoid pulled right out of the Lying
KKKonservative's Ass....

MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN


Indirectly, even the most rich and powerful pay taxes, at least some
of the time.

The rest of us (including NASA employees that are obviously paid extra
by the rest of us village idiots so that they too can pay taxes), are
by way of having to spend most every cent of their hard earned loot,
getting to pay compounded taxes upon taxes on a 24/7/365 basis, and
most of us are as a result of our being in debt past the point of no
return are never going to see the light of day. Our local, state and
federal spending is off the hook (so to speak), and those also by far
represent the bulk of those employed w/benefits, all of which has to
come from the goods and services generated by the ever shrinking
private sector.

If the rich and powerful do not spend the vast bulk of their taxable
loot locally instead of off-shore, we’re screwed. Those vast numbers
of “civil servants pay taxes” only because we the private sector pay
them enough extra to start off with, so that they too can afford their
income, retail and property taxes. Only the shrinking global private
sector pays for everything of local, state and federal spending
(including whatever taxes they get to pay).

BTW, human soot laced with CO2, NOx and lots of other nifty and nasty
byproducts does cause global dimming, of which in turn releases mother
natures flatulence of methanes and CO2 as well as Radon(Rn222) as
millions of acres each year keep burning to the ground, not to mention
uncontrolled coal fires that are mostly underground, and even a few
too many of those coal fires of the recently exposed and/or eroded
surface.

At the ongoing rate of natural and artificial burning of our fossil
and bio fuels, we'll be lucky to stretch this ongoing game of
pillaging and raping mother nature for all she's worth much past the
next century, without dire consequences and bloodshed like never seen
before.

The very gradual increase (meaning hardly measurable outside of the
usual 11 year cycle) in sunspot energy is not causing us much grief,
although it is certainly not helping to cool us off.

Our trusty moon with its mutually interactive tidal energy worth of
2e20 N/sec is however in charge of what has been thawing us out from
the very last ice-age this planet w/moon is ever going to see. Sorry
about that.

2e20 N * 3.6e3 = 7.2e23 N/hr

Do the math any which way you'd care to convert whatever small portion
(say not more than 0.1% and not less than 0.0001%) of that force into
the unavoidable internal friction of thermal energy, then remember
that it's ongoing 24/7/365. There's also the moon secondary worth of
IR, plus always its gamma and X-rays to contend with, of which
wouldn't be such a problem if our protective magnetosphere wasn't
fading away at .05%/year.

DARPA/NASA knows all of this and so much more.
. - Brad Guth