On May 5, 6:32 pm, "Hagar" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On May 5, 7:25 am, "Hagar" wrote:



"BradGuth" wrote in message

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Being a little hot, buoyant and having 10% less gravity is actually a
darn good thing if you were a Venusian airship, even if limited as to
an oven-wrap or KetaSpire PEEK polyetheretherketone and fiber
reinforced balloon. Such fiber reinforced composites do exist,
although an outer skin of something in basic titanium shouldn’t be
excluded for this rigid airship configuration.

snip drivel

And, pray tell Brad, where would the above ship be manufactured ?
On the surface of Venus, you say? I don't think so. Oh, I see ... you'd
build it on Mars and then have the Acme Intergalactic Airship Towing
Company move it to Venus and insert it into the proper orbit.
Good plan,Brad. Keep up the fine work.
Ed Conrad wants to talk to you .... something about an ossified brain ....

Dear "snip drivel",
Most certainly not in your backyard, or by way of any of your "snip
drivel" certified friends. It seems your profound nayism and lack of
constructive contributions to this or for that matter of most any
topic is equal to none other than whatever DARPA expects of their
brown-nosed minions. As such, your warm and fuzzy services are no
longer needed, especially since you show no honest signs of being the
least bit qualified or even knowing of those qualified in rigid
airship R&D. Did I miss anything?

Yea, you dumb ****, you didn't answer my question, which is:
Where will you build them and how will you get them into the
atmosphere of Venus. A straight forward question, to which
you obviously do not have an answer, you loon.

Considering the sulphuric content of said atmosphere (minor detail),
what materials of construction were you going to use ?? No generalities
please, since that seems to be your forte.
do you plan to use?? Titanium you say, holy moley, it'll drop like a rock

If I were put in charge, the last kind of folks I'd have on this team
are those continually spouting off with those naysay loaded questions
that usually have nothing whatsoever to do with the R&D phase, such as
where it's going to be built and for those methods of getting this
airship safely deployed below them Venus clouds is entirely another
can of worms, much like yourself.

Since I’m unlike most in Usenet/Groups, whereas I'm not all-knowing
nor otherwise a crack wizard at everything is perhaps why I've merely
posted this topic as a worthy idea, with allowances for design
variations and methods that'll take kindly to the toasty environment
of Venus. Silly me for thinking your supposed expertise and better
numbers would ever help further this topic along.

In case you’re still interested, I'm assuming we'd start at something
of a 1/10th scaled down prototype. However, at 50 km by season of
nighttime is potentially freezing, as well as getting some of that
acidic haze as fallout from those thick clouds, and that's why
cruising at 25 km by night seems likely.

BTW, your comment “Titanium you say, holy moley, it'll drop like a
rock” is proof-positive that you have no idea what airship buoyancy
Venus has to offer. A relatively thin outer shell of titanium is not
a mission killer, although tough and high temperature certified
composites as rated for reentry trauma shouldn’t be all that
unlikely. Why don’t you suggest whatever makes Hagar a happy camper.
. – Brad Guth