On May 1, 5:29 am, Williamknowsbest wrote:
Some have said that the surface of Venus today is safe for human
habitation. These same individuals say the moon is not. We don't
have to guess about the surface condition of either.
Here's a picture from the surface of Venus
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...nera13_big.gif
that was sent by the Soviet Venera 13 space probe sitting on the
surface of Venus after parachuting there on 1 March 1982. The
vehicle, even though safeguarded from conditions in its own safe-like
enclosure survived only half an hour in the blazing 482 C (900 F)
temperature - about twice as hot as your oven at home. The air
pressure was 92 bar - 92 times sea level pressure on Earth. Chemical
analysis of the droplets in the clouds surrounding the lander indicate
they wree pure sulfuric acid.
In other kind and constructive words, there's actually hundreds of
teratonnes worth of easily extractable h2o, especially when taken from
within that relatively cold nighttime clouded season (say at 60+ km).
Now if any of you have ever left a chicken or a steak under a broiler
at 500 F for too long, or if any of you have ever cooked a whole
turkey in minutes in a pressure cooker (which operates at 2 bar) - or
if any of you have ever dropped anything organic in sulfuric acid -
you may have some inkling of just how BAD a day you would have if you
found yourself on the surface of Venus!
Twice as hot as the broiler gets, 40x more pressure than a pressure
cooker, and clouds of liquid sulfuric acid.. hmm..
Any organic material, would burst into a weird sort of flame, and
dissolve away in seconds leaving the bones behind which might last
nearly 20 minutes or so before dissolving altogether.
Sadly, this above statement of yours is simply another good example as
to what more than proves you know so damn little of actual physics or
science. It's as though you are still a smarter than average 5th
grader, with lots to learn, except you're actually too damn old to
learn anything.
This is NOT conducive to life.
As far as the moon is concerned.
We've been there.. Here's a series of films shot from Apollo 15's
Falcon lander.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1xzPGyt4F4
Here's a few more images from the lunar surface
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6c60...La6BOFu3A&NR=1
And if you want to see more! for only $20 you can get the DVDhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjtJ3GTT5ms&feature=related
Euugene Cernan said once that naysayers can spin all sorts of crazy
theories they want about Apollo,to take away the thrill, and the glory
of those missions to the American people, but there's one thing
they'll never do, and that's take those footprints I made on Montes
Taurus the Winter of 1972 away from me!.
Now it is true that there is more radiation on the moon than on Earth,
but the amounts are tolerable if stay times are short - less than 90
days. For those who wish to stay longer than a year on the moon, you
need to get underground or do something different. This is an issue
for long-term habitation. Not for short term exploration or tourism
or even industry if you rotate work crews or work tele-robotically
from shielded bunkers
It is an issue that will be resolved in my estimation.
Your bipolar form of using conditional physics and genetic infused
naysayism is showing its ugly Semitic head once again.
Using your subjective and otherwise conditional laws of conditional
physics in order to discredit what can be otherwise technically
accomplished with such a surplus of local energy and resources to
spare, is only boasting as to further proof-positive and otherwise
nailing down about your BD(bipolar disorder), that's forever going to
continually object to anything on behalf of Venus.
The same laws of physics that makes all things of Mook function
without a hitch and at good profit margin to boot, instead could be
utilized on behalf of making nifty stuff happen on behalf of Venus,
regardless of how hot and nasty that raw environment is to naked life
as we know it.
Your "This is NOT conducive to life" should have been more properly
stated as 'not conducive to naked dumbfounded life'.
Pressure once equalized is a biological no-brainer, and of such dry
temperature isn't hardly an issue with unlimited local energy and
insulation as good as R-1024/m is certainly not hardly a bad thing,
any more so than CO2--co/o2 is the least bit insurmountable. Even
crystal dry S8 is 100% harmless.
Unlike our naked and thus unavoidably anticathode reactive moon,
whereas one bad halo CME or series of cosmic gamma events (of which
there are always many), and within minutes human DNA is sufficiently
done for (aka 'past the point of no return'), whereas on Venus our DNA
is extremely well protected, far better off than here on Earth, as
well as there being no gamma radiating moon adding its lethal energy
trauma plus gravity/tidal force of global warming affect to the
already geothermally forced situation as a toasty surface environment.
Of course, those easily fooled by way of purely subjective evidence,
by mainstream hyped eye-candy of all things inert, especially when any
number of objective forms of evidence has been continually discounted
as though Old Testament taboo/nondisclosure rated, leaves little to
conclude other than brown-nosed birds of a Semitic feather (like
yourself) do in fact flock together.
Your clearly bipolar skewed way of taking each and everything out of
context and then intentionally interpreting on only the utmost
negative aspects, including your persistent exclusion of whatever
intelligent use of technology could muster, is just further proof-
positive of your bipolar intentions of continually doing everything
you possibly can in order to undermine or disqualify each and every
consideration on behalf of polishing anything except Mook stuff.
Yourself, GW Bush and company of brown-nosed minions are clearly one
in the same as Hitler, except combined and while off your bipolar meds
is when you folks are much worse than, as well as having polluted and
exterminated far greater numbers along with your mutually faith-based
perpetrated cold-war(s).
Your intentions are as always every bit as clear as another DARPA S-
Band Chapel Bell transponder.
.. - Brad Guth