To tell the truth, there is simply no question as to the orchestrated
efforts by those in charge of our private parts, towards sustaining
their official gauntlet of topic/author stalking, bashings and/or
imposing as much banishment as possible against those of us sharing
the best available truths. There is also no question as to the
orchestrated faith-based conspiracy of those in charge of keeping
various lids on tight, such as their having been rejecting everything
outside of their NASA Quran about Venus, and especially tough nuts
with any regard to our moon as being 100% taboo/nondisclosure rated,
and it's only getting worse yet for merely contemplating the usage of
our moon's L1, and otherwise God forbid ever using Venus L2.

NASA's swarm like borg collective mindset, such as via
uplink.space.com and of most all the essential Usenet and media worthy
groups, are very much included within the scope of this often faith-
based conspiracy to defraud upon physics and science integrity, often
by way of merely banishing those they elect to black-ball or by way of
excluding evidence, with the clear intent of their focus as to insure
only their side of any given argument/rant gets any official credits
for all the good stuff and thereby receives whatever public attention
and funding. We also have to include an honorable mention as to those
folks of pretend atheism, mostly because of their swarm like actions
being so unusually Old Testament or otherwise Zionist faith-based cult
like imposed upon blocking and/or diverting such change or revisions
of most any kind, especially if there's any remote chance of outsiders
suggesting their God, creator or puppet warlord had anything
whatsoever to do with any other planet or moon..

This officially imposed gauntlet of such a brown-nosed clownism
infested infowar and disinformation tactic is certainly not new or
exclusive to the likes of our NASA or of their Skull and Bones cult of
peers, but it's certainly having been put to the full test each and
every time I've shared an honestly deductive thought, of any
subjective interpretation as to whatever's existing/coexisting on
Venus, as only intelligent other life could represent is automatically
rejected because such notions would make their supposed expertise seem
inadequate if not fraudulent.

In order for this other intelligent life to have survived Venus, it is
not required of any such intelligent life being interplanetary
capable, or even into having radio/microwave technology, whereas the
lack of either or both of those capabilities would have no direct
impact upon others as most likely unlike us humans, as having managed
to survive upon Venus. This is also not imposing any requirement of
purely natural evolution being the one and only option, as fully
complex species via panspermia, and even by way of intelligent design
is perfectly doable and even within the scope by way of our somewhat
primitive Earth standards of getting our stuff to other off-world
places. So, we don't have to insist upon there having been Venusian
locals of purely the natural evolutionary kind, although the ability
of complex DNA/RNA to adapt in order to survive is well known to
exist, as even here on Earth where such highly complex life has been
surviving for millions of years longer than humanity, and within the
most dreadful of places impossible for us humans to survive in the
buff is the well accepted norm.

BTW, I'd started ranting about the use of a CO2 HVAC/refrigeration
system within the Venus toasty environment as of 8 years ago and
counting (except w/o the "H" because only cooling is required), and to
think that it wasn't even my idea to start with since CO2
refrigeration had been well established by others as of a good century
before. Essentially a Stirling thermal conversion process of such CO2
refrigeration is all it takes, and otherwise via conventional
compressor there's obviously no shortage of dry CO2 or the local
energy that's fully renewable while on Venus.

So, don't even bother to kid yourself by whatever's being said and/or
imposed against those of us thinking and openly sharing outside the
mostly faith-based mainstream status quo box, because we are not the
bad guys here.
.. - Brad Guth


On Dec 8 2007, 1:02 pm, BradGuth wrote:
Venus has only been a little geothermal Ovglove toasty to the human
touch, but of nothing our applied physics and well proven science
can't deal with, including the co2--co/o2 process that'll allow us
mere humans to breath, along with enough Reverse Stirling as a local
habitat cooling process for the task of keeping our beer icy cold and
our private parts just right.

I have few doubts that as of once upon a time those sufficiently smart
ET's (as possibly from that mostly fresh water little swamp of Mars)
did manage to accomplish a real number on us, as they pillaged and
raped mother Earth for all she's worth, leaving us with the mere dregs
and tailings of whatever remained that they didn't wish to bother
with.

Though instead of their arriving from that somewhat iffy Mars
environment, I'm thinking along the what-if lines of their having
arrived out of the red giant phase era of that nearby Sirius star/
solar system, that might have unavoidably donated one of their icy
Oort cloud protomoons and perhaps even having donated the likes of
Venus from otherwise getting itself summarily nailed into Sirius A or
B.

Perhaps after these god like ETs having sucked Earth dry(sort of
speak) they'd moved on to Venus where there were much fewer if any
locals to enslave, but otherwise having nearly unlimited natural
mineral resources as well as for having unlimited local energy for the
task of processing whatever on behalf of creating most anything they'd
care to do.

Would you folks like to see for yourself, as to what a really big and
impressive Venus style tarmac and adjoining community of rational
infrastructure looks like?

Are you folks still with me?
- Brad Guth

On Oct 22, 6:09 am, BradGuth wrote:

Whenever sharing about our moon or Venus, it's exactly as though we're
not being told the whole truth and nothing but the truth about much of
anything these days. Talk about revising history, science and a whole
lot more, whereas those hot rocks of Venus that so happen to look as
though having been arranged so gosh darn unusually intelligent, are
most likely still there to behold, and we've had the technology for
having taken a much closer look-see for better than a good decade.

This observationology of image interpretation isn't the least bit
hocus-pocus phony, nor is it having any ulterior motives or hidden
agenda like our mutually perpetrated cold-war(s), or even hot-war(s)
over fossil and yellowcake energy as of lately, and there's nothing
but an all around win-win for science and humanity if in fact any of
those hot rocks of Venus are actually of those modified and/or having
been put to good use by intelligent other life. At least there's
nothing about Venus that's technically all that insurmountable, that
is unless you're not quite half as smart as a hot rock.

The official NASA/Magellan image of GIF format, as being that of a 36
look per pixel composite as having been given essentially the benefit
of those 36 confirming radar looks per each pixel, is by itself worthy
of our consideration for all kinds of honest reasons besides those
patterns of whatever's interpreting as so AI /(intelligent/
artificial), as opposed to all of the perfectly natural appearing
items that are of equally outstanding planetology, such as the
impressive FLUID ARCH.

The big question of the day is; Does anyone within Google/NOVA's
usenetland of such all-knowing wizards care to discuss/review the long
and growing list of what-ifs? (after all, for all we know those hot-
foot Venusians could even be of a Zion/semitic faith)

For a topic starter, we are obviously not talking about any cool and
wet Earth like environment, or even that of our weird, naked and
somewhat salty moon, nor of any such dead and nearly frozen to the
core likes of Mars or of whatever's so much further away. At times
Venus is actually extremely nearby (a little over 100X the distance of
our moon), and it's absolutely chuck full of its very own geothermal
cache of raw energy that's sharing a surface of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256
fold greater than Earth), that which only a born-again dork of a
naysayer like most of our usenet anti-think-tank rusemasters couldn't
possibly appreciate.

Why exclude the unknown simply because it's unknown? In other words,
most likely your whole intellectual mindset worth of whatever's
supposedly wiser and thus greater than most, that's simply faiyjh-
based obligated on behalf of what has to go out of its infomercial
spewing way in order to exclude upon any such off-world intelligent
other life, regardless of whatever's the applied technology, or even
to banish anything that's of off-world intelligent potential
regardless of whatever's the alternative planetology and of its local
evolution, of which you and I know absolutely nothing about is what
seems a bit counter-productive.

If at all possible, please do further explain as to those very
intelligent and/or rational community looking items, as if somehow
those were being purely natural, by way of offering us some other
image examples, as to sharing in where such a rational complex
community looking group of planetology considerations are otherwise to
be found within common/terrestrial planetology w/o AI benefit of
whatever intelligent life accomplished, such as right here on Earth
should offer. For one basic observationology argument example; How
many complex looking tarmacs are there on Earth that had absolutely
nothing whatsoever of AI to do with their having been created or
otherwise crafted/modified for their rational use by intelligent life?

Thanks once again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for once having
posted a link to this updated page of Venus images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting AI information can be found within image
No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of
such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust,
rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of
which you should apply your own PhotoShop/resampling enlargement of at
least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image
cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a
purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can't
accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements without making the image look
worse off than it really is.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...

If you still can not find this community of interesting pixels, then
you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are.
- Brad Guth -