View Single Post
  #11  
Old December 27th 07, 12:20 PM posted to alt.astronomy
Painius Painius is offline
Banned
 
First recorded activity by SpaceBanter: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,144
Default Q. What drives the engine of life ?

"oldcoot" wrote in message...
...
On Dec 26, 6:30 am, "Painius" wrote:

Now, *my* questions are similar...

Q's.: What drives the engine of _s e n t i e n t_ life?

Sentience must begin at some point between conception
and birth, or maybe after we're born. When, exactly, does
this happen, do you think?


Well, has sentience, or life itself, ever been known to arise from non-
life? The Greeks had that thing about the ineffable 'pneuma' being the
source or "breath" of life. 'Pneuma' was synonymous with 'spirit'. But
we now know the pneuma's just plain ol' air, which although
*necessary* for life, is not the base field from which life arises.

Today we've come upon the latter-day 'Pneuma', the "stuff" of space
itself, the Sub-Planck Energy Domain, of which matter is the low-
grade, superfluous by-product (the 'dustbunny'). Yet the scientific
mainstream rejects and denies the existance of this universe-filling
Plenum of space in favor of the 'Void'. So the question is this:

Do life and sentience arise from matter alone, as the Void-Space
Paradigm would dictate? OR.. do life, consciousness, and ultimately
sentience, arise from the Base Field of space itself?

And moreover, are humans endowed with some "organ (or organs) of
articulation" by which to perceive this Base Field? Down through time
and in all cultures, have there been a few individuals genetically
gifted in this perception? Bereft of any science acumen, did they
render what they saw in terms of religious myth, metaphor and symbol?
But today, with the full lexicon of science available and no need for
archaic symbolism, should not those gifted ones be able to explain
*literally* what they've seen (once unshackled from the void-space
indoctrination)?


Oh, i think there is still a definite need in the
world for symbolism, both archaic and modern!
(Modern ones are pretty much just revivals of
the ancient and archaic symbols.)

When Carl Jung's archetypes are studied, one
notes an apparent genetic affinity, almost an
instinctive *need* for such symbols.

And it appears that this can easily result in the
average person being "taken to the cleaners"
by some of those "gifted ones" you mention.
Perhaps it is for the very reason that, while a
full lexicon of science is available, most of the
population cares little for it, and therefore have
very little knowledge of it.

Attach to this the fact that few scientists are
well-versed in bringing their knowledge to the
people in comprehensible terms, as well as the
fact that there is still much to learn as regards
the separation of fantasy and reality, and the
world *still has* a lot of room for both the
religious and the atheistic "gifted ones" to do
their "magic", sometimes to the point of poison
koolaid.

I believe you're right, though. It's tough to find
evidence that can be widely accepted, but there
must be more to life and sentience than "meets
the eye".

There seems to be a definite, more orderly set
of vibrations that are emitted by sentient life.
And as well, there also seems to be a definite
"receiver" of these emissions, these "vibes" if
you will, "out there somewhere". I've had a
good deal of experiences in my life for which
there appears to be no better explanation!

happy new-year days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine

P.S. (shh) Some secret sites...
http://painellsworth.net
http://savethechildren.org/
http://home.secretsgolden.com

P.P.S. Thank YOU for reading!