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Old September 23rd 07, 10:18 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
Dr. Henri Wilson
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Default Why are the 'Fixed Stars' so FIXED?

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:46:12 +0100, "George Dishman"
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:17:09 +0100, "George Dishman"
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:33:27 +0100, "George Dishman"
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[I wrote:]

Your model consists of two equations:

v = u+c

and

dv/ds =(c/n - v)/R

Neither has any oscillatory term.


Now write the equation for the wave in a moving organ pipe..whilst it
is
producing sound...

Why would I do that? It isn't a solution to either
of the equations so not part of your theory.

You obviously don't understand my photon theory..

You don't have a photon theory, you only talk
about them as bursts of classical waves but
your equations do not produce photons. See
my description of your 'EM' program for an
analysis and then think what you could do to
your equations to make such a pattern self
sustaining during propagation. I don't think
it is possible.


See my reply to Ghost in the other thread.


I haven't seen a new message from you to him since
this was posted so you'll need to give me a link
or summarise.

"Gray atmosphere" I believe is the term in this
field, but Kirchoff's Law still applies and since
the opacity increases with depth you still cannot
see through to deeper layers beyond the photosphere.

But you just asked how long it took light from the sun's core to reach
the
surface. If t reaches the surface at all, surely you can 'see' it.

You see the surface from which it was last emitted.
Think of an opaque film with light shining on it.
The film heats up and emits black-body radiation
so a black plastic film with sunlight might glow
at 300K even though the spectrum illuminating it
is over 5000K. You can still feel the warmth but
there will be a slight delay if a shaow passes
over it. Try it with a black plastic bag in a frame
in your back garden.


Not convincing....


Not meant to be, simply an analogy to aid
understanding. For proof, you need to calculate
the mean free path.

While on that subject. I once decided to heat my computer room in winter
by
hanging a black plastic curtin over the large north facing window ( I live
in
OZ). This worked well, acting as both a re-radiator and a double
insulator...The room warmed very efficiently and was dark enough for me to
see
the screen.
There was only one problem...after several weeks, I started to get a sore
throat whenever I sat there for long. I finally woke up to the fact that
the
plastic was slowly decaying and giving off what was probably a pretty
deadly
gas...It didn't kill me but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else.


Nasty.

I later rigged up a similar curtain using sheet metal and achieved the
same
result....plenty of warmth with little bright sunlight...


Nice. Now imagine a material which is slighly
translucent but so thick no light gets through,
just the heat. You might be able to see 2mm into
it but it is 100cm thick. That's how the surface
of the Sun behaves, except that in addition it
is more transparent near the surface and gets
denser with depth, say 1cm of transparent before
you get to the 1mm translucent layer. The far side
is hot where the Sun hits it, the near side is
cooler because of the insulating effect of the
material, and looking into the surface you see a
small temperature gradient from about 11 mm into
the material.


Yes of course... but outward energy flow has to be consistent...

I once had a job taking very fine photos of the sun, mainly in the H red.

The edges of the ball were quite sharp.
However, that doesn't mean a significant thick tansparent layer does not
exist....and that layer emits plenty of light.

George


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