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Old August 31st 07, 12:30 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.astro,sci.physics,soc.culture.usa,soc.history.what-if
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Default Planetary Heat Losses / Brad Guth

Good grief, what another pathetic infomercial old joke, with our warm
and fuzzy NASA in full infomercial media damage-control, once again
via hype diverting us away from the truth by simply pretending at
their doing a Venus mission, and with such old file copy tactics none
the less. However, unlike our moon, at least Venus is technically
doable from the toasty surface on up into those icy cool though acidic
nighttime clouds.

Up, Up and Away -- To Venus (aka: on the dirt cheap)
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...-20070827.html
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/1...-07-browse.jpg

"This was one of the surprises of the Vega balloon mission the Soviet
Union flew more than two decades ago," Baines said. "Enormous gravity
waves appear to rise up more than 30 miles into the upper atmosphere,
causing unexpected depositions of energy generated at the surface and
producing strong vertical movements of air. We want to ride these
waves, measuring their effect on Venus' bizarre high-speed winds."

"Enormous gravity waves" ???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave
"In fluid dynamics, gravity waves are waves generated in a fluid
medium or at the interface between two mediums (e.g. the atmosphere or
ocean) which has the restoring force of gravity or buoyancy."

But otherwise, no kidding folks, because of the newish planetology
with all that CO2 as saturated with S8, being so much hotter near that
grothermally active surface, is clearly why there's such a terrific
vertical thermal differential and subsequent velocity, as well as
downright nifty buoyancy to that robust atmosphere.

Instead of going with that silly balloon, a composite rigid airship
would be far better and longer lasting, as well as capable of cruising
extensively to within a few km of that toasty deck.

"It's about the same size as our planet, but the surface is about 900
degrees Fahrenheit, and we want to find out why."

Much like good old proto-Earth, in places it's clearly much hotter
than in other places.
(think: newish planetology)
(think: much less old than Earth)
Think outside the mainstream status quo box, because there's
sufficient proof of intelligent other life existing/coexisting on
Venus. There's also insufficient proof that either Venus or Earth fit
within the popular mold of our solar system, and quite possibly either
of us were not originally associated within this solar system because,
it's becoming better understood that rogue planets do exist,
especially those of good volume and mass as having Earth like moons
that survived the demise of their original sun.

BTW, the extremely mountainous terrain of Venus suggest that it once
upon a time had a fairly substantial moon, perhaps exactly like that
moon of ours, as perhaps being the primary reason as to why Venus
remained so extra geothermal from the inside out. These days, Venus
is cooling off at roughly 20.5 w/m2 (in spite of that insulative
atmosphere, it's losing an impressive 256 fold greater thermal energy
than what Earth is losing).

http://ees.elsevier.com/jasr/
"Advances in Space Research is the Official Journal of the Committee
on Space Research (COSPAR), a Scientific Committee of the
International Council of Scientific Unions (ICSU)" is nothing but
another insider journal dump, of self promoting e-published hype at
taxpayers expense, on just about anything you'd care to find. Peer
reviewed, my ass, as only that which doesn't rock thy good ship
LOLLIPOP is allowed to stick. Their peer review simply means
revisionism of any kind is forbidden, and nothing gets interconnected,
meaning that each research topic has to be a *stand alone* or all
inclusive item without ties or links to other research (aka: no dot
connecting allowed).
- Brad Guth