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Old July 26th 07, 08:53 PM posted to sci.space.policy
GatherNoMoss
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Default It's become clear to me that "space colony" dreamers don't want to face the hard problems Earth-side

On Jul 24, 7:57 pm, Hop David wrote:
There's at least the possibility that future spacefaring humans will
encounter intelligent beings with a primitive culture. If our
descendants are like us, such an encounter would likely be bad news for
the alien life forms.



Yes this leads to the thing I mentioned about "universal law". (I
need to explain things more clearly...my bad)

I think many people advocating mass space/planet colonization do so
because "If we don't establish a colony, then humans will extinguish
themselves on Earth. We need a life boat."
This is the reason that Stephen Hawkings gives.

I argue against this...or rather, I think it futile.

Think of that scene in "Contact" based on Sagan's book....
Jodie Foster's character encounters the advanced alien and begs
that , for humanities sake, for further contact.
"Humanities in trouble !" argues Foster's character.(words not exact)
"We're confused. Alone ! We need instruction from races that have
already been through this crisis period in development."

The advanced alien declines....not through cruelity, and that's key.
More a tough love type deal.

Humanity isn't going to get any help from anybody.
To get help would be disasterous to all parties...mostly ourselves.

"We learn through our suffering" individuals, nations, species.

It's not loony.
I intuitively know that we won't be able to "conquer space" until
humanity has mastered ourselves and become expert stewards of the
Earth. Because that's the natural way of development.

Froget "saving" humanity through space/ planet colonization.
That's putting the horse before the cart.

A species that has to save itself by GETTING AWAY FROM ITSELF won't
make it. It's a maturity issue.
Technology is not the only measure of a species !