On May 24, 5:09 pm, (Richard Tobin) wrote:
In article . com,

oriel36 wrote:
The only acceptablle,do you hear this,the only acceptable view [...]

Then I'm afraid you're going to have to accept the unacceptable.

-- Richard
--
"Consideration shall be given to the need for as many as 32 characters
in some alphabets" - X3.4, 1963.

Here is the faster Earth overtaking the slower orbitally moving outer
planets as the main Copernican argument for a common orbital motion
around the central Sun -

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif

Here is the faster orbitally moving Venus,in an inner orbital
circuit , overtaking the slower orbitally moving Earth with the
central Sun as a backdrop , an event that also affirms a common
heliocentric orbit -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_fd8O1sk3I

You have the time lapse footage before you and you still defend the
false approach to and resolution of retrogrades that originated with
Newton -

" For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct,
sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun
they are always seen direct," Newton

There is no hypothetical observer on the Sun needed to resolve
retrogrades as it is all appreciated from an orbitally moving Earth -

" In this arrangement, therefore, we discover a marvelous symmetry
of the universe, and an established harmonious linkage between the
motion of the spheres and their size, such as can be found in no other
way. For this permits a not inattentive student to perceive why the
forward and backward arcs appear greater in Jupiter than in Saturn and
smaller than in Mars... All these phenomena proceed from the same
cause, which is in the earth's motion. " COPERNICUS

The time lapse footage above the Earth overtaking Jupiter and
Saturn,when reduced to individual images of the two planets show
exactly what Copernicus is describing in that paragraph -

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...loop_tezel.jpg

There were no telescopes around as a means for Copernicus to use the
faster orbitally moving Venus and Mercury overtaking the slower moving
Earth but there are now and this is the only acceptable way to
approach the event.

It is not the astrological magnification guys that I have
difficulties with,they are content in their celestial sphere bubble,it
is with genuine people who should have no difficulties with modern
imaging as a way to explain the observed motion of the planets by
using an orbitally moving Earth.Surely there is somebody who can use
the faster orbital motion of the Earth against the outer planets and
the slower orbital motion of the Earth against the inner planets to
affirm a common heliocentric orbit and the arrangement of planets
around the central Sun.You cannot do this with a dumb Newtonian view -

" For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct,
sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun
they are always seen direct," Newton

It is unimaginable that a group of people would knowingly support a
false approach to and resolution of the main Copernican arguments for
the motions of the Earth and for what !.You continue to disgrace
yourselves for a numbskull who had no feel for astronomy and its noble
heritage and it shows in the level you allow yourselves to fall
to.Hypocrits who profess an interest in astronomy but detest its
priceless insights.