HW@....(Henri Wilson) wrote in
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 07:18:20 +0000 (UTC), bz
wrote:

Jeff Root wrote in news:1179032688.092049.307790
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George replied to Henry:

Individual photons resist ADoppler compression whilst the
macroscopic bunching of all the photons in the beam continues
and is responsible for large brightness variations.

This is really quite a simple principle George. I cannot
understand why you find it so difficult.

Because I learned maths at a more advanced level than
you and can see that your claims are contradictory.

It does appear as if you are ignoring his springy photon
model and applying the math to a different model.

His 'springy photon' model is not viable as it is proposed.
He proposes that the springy photons compress due to pressure from other
photons.

Falsified by experimental data. Wavelength of light is independent of
the intensity of the light. Springy photons would get shorter in
wavelength as light intensity increased.

Perhaps the photons are not springy, perhaps they are like styrofome.
Perhaps they only compress ONCE and stay compressed? Again, not a viable
model. Lasers can start with low output and ramp up their output.
Henri's model would predict strong 'chirp' as the frequency got shorter
as intensity ramped up.

His 'springy BaTh photons' suffer two other problems:
[his model was proposed to handle pulsar pulses and the fact that the
phase of the velocity curve (doppler), the observed phase of Shapiro
Effect from eclipse do not match phase of the doppler and intensity
curve predictions from Henri's BaTh model.

You've gotten it all wrong Bob.
Photon compression occurs during source acceleration. The end movement
is soon dampened out.


1) space between pulses and pulses must compress by same amount due to
one kind of doppler effect. To get the phase right, Henri has to posit
some kind of compression taking place in different amounts on the space
between pulses(space between photons) and the pulses (photons).
2) The BaTh predicts a inverted Shapiro delay.

Finally, Henri's BaTh still has the problem I have mentioned elsewhere;
the 'velocity unification aka extinction' effect that BaTh needs to be
at all viable is so 'unlikely' as to be thermodynamically impossible AND
there are no known mechanisms to accomplish what needs to be
accomplished.

It is NOT thermodynamically impossible. You never sem to come up with an
argument as to why it should be.

I thought I was quite clear.

Thermo dynamics requires that ordered things tend to disorder.

Unification of velocity requires bringing an unexplainable order on a vast
scale to things which start out systematically disordered. Photons of
different wavelength from different emission lines with different
rotational doppler shifts, starting out at different times, at different
speeds (both slower than c and faster than c) must 'unify'.

The odds of such a thing happening on a small scale would be like flipping
a normal 'fair' coin and having it alway land heads up.

The odds of it happening on a cosmic scale are astronomically small.

It is much more likely that your hot cup of coffee should suddenly,
spontainiously, vaporize and leave behind cubes of frozen water.

It can't happen.




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bz

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