"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message ...
"Hallerb" wrote in message
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How could we damage venus in any fashion?

We could send them your posts.

Thanks for saying that. It needed to be said. Here's something other
that needs to be said. The reason being is if we can somehow stop the
waste of blowing trillions on any ESE, less than .001% of that'll put
us, or at least TRACE-II, at VL2.

GUTH MOON DIRT EXPRESS (GMDE), let there be Flywheels of Tether Energy

Regarding another ESE infomercial from: Bob Munck
"For example, at 18,000 km -- half-way up -- gravity is down to .07 g.
If at that point you can switch from 200 kph rollers to 1000 kph
magnetics, you cut three days from the trip."

If the half way point is 18,000 km, then 36,000 km is certainly right
smack in the middle of Dr. Van Allen's zone of death, of receiving
only 2^3 Sv/year behind 2 g/cm2 and, that's not actually including any
significant solar contributions per say, just the typical environment
+ whatever.

Shielding requirements, such as those currently utilized for the likes
of ISS, for spending any amount of time at the ESE depot are going to
be limited to hours unless you're surrounded by several hundred g/cm2.
I for one would start off at a full meter worth of moon dirt (341
g/cm2), a longer stay (months) might require a habitat surrounded by
as much as 3 meters worth (1023 g/cm2). Per m3 we're at the mass of
3410 kg or 3.41 t/m3. Exactly how much cost and energy effectively
that sort of mass can be delivered via ESE is going to be doable, but
certainly not cheap nor without creating large amounts of CO2.

The energy to accommodate such terrific lifting is potentially
available via tether dipole and, of that energy being stored via
substantial flywheels. Being that the Van Allen zone of death most
likely holds all sorts of electro-magnetic energy potential, there
should not be any shortages of energy (too much if anything).

A 10x10x10 meter ESE abode interior will subsequently require at least
728 m3, 728 * 3.41 = 2482.5 t, that is if you're going for a modest
shield surround density of equal or better than 341 g/m2.

http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-se-flywheels.htm

Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS~GASA / Discovery of LIFE on Venus
LSE UPDATES: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-cm-ccm-01.htm