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On Mar 10, 10:06 pm, "Brad Guth" wrote:
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Like millions of people around the world, Bart Sibrel was fascinated
with
the Apollo moon landing when he was a child. The walls of his bedroom
were
filled with pictures of the Apollo moon landing.

Years later, as an adult, he heard that NASA faked the Apollo moon
landings. Since he was making films for a living, he decided to
investigate
Apollo and create a documentary about it.


In spite of the fact that he understands, like Brad Guth, nothing
about photography.


Bart Sibrel spent five years and $500,000 on the research and filming of
his
Apollo documentary, starting in 1996. The end result was A Funny Thing
Happened On The Way To The Moon:www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie


But none of his "research" inlcuded learning anything about physics,
or photography for that matter.


He acquired a lot of video from NASA's archives during his research. One
of
the containers of video was mis-marked. Inside was video that had not
been
edited for the public. Instead, it contained the raw video directly from
the
Apollo spacecraft.

If the Apollo astronauts really did go to the moon, it would not matter
if
somebody acquired unedited video.

However, this particular unedited video showed the astronauts in orbit
around the earth, and they were setting up for a photo to make it appear
as
if the earth was a small sphere a long distance away, thereby creating
the
illusion that they were halfway to the moon.


Big ****ing deal. Manipulatrion of images if WHAT EVERY PHOTOGRAPHER
DOES. Inf act, you know what this process is called? It's called
PHOTOGRAPHY!

HInt to make objects seem further away, use wide-angle lenses. TO make
objects appear closer, use telephoto lenses. See, I saved you wasting
$500,000.


The public was supposed to see only the portion of the video in which
the
earth looks tiny; we were not supposed to watch the astronauts set up
the
image.


How often to you go to the movies to see unedited footage? Do you
realize, in even a cheap motion picture, what percentage of the film
taken actually appears on the screen? Oh, no, I forgot - this is
supposed to be a guy who make films for a living, yet hasn't heard of
EDITING.


This video proves that the astronauts never went beyond Earth orbit,
which
in turn means the entire moon landing was faked.


It only proves that the astronauts know more about photography than
YOU, which, admittedly, isn't saying a whole lot.


More information about his videos are here, plus video excerpts:www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/default.asp?ID=7

Do you need more evidence?


"More" evidence? You haven't presented ANY evidence of a moon hjoax,
only lot sof evidence of your complete stupidity and ignorance.


We have hundreds of ways to prove that Apollo astronauts never went to
the
moon.


Yet you only present misunderstandings of photographs - 1) why aren;t
the stars visible?; ignorance about radiation- 2) it wasn't possible
to survive the van Allen belts, 3) the space suits were too small, 4)
the hatch of the LEM was too small, 5) why is the flag "waving"?

Each of these has been easily demolished ad infinitum, but you still
persist in the same weak arguments.

However, as with the 9/11 attack, the people who defend the
official
story will ignore our proof and bring up issues that we cannot answer.


So not only do we have faked moon landings, but also a faked 911
attack. And since you are anti-Semitic, you probably deny the
Holocaust as well. Say hello to Bigfoot and the "Greys" for me, the
next time you are alien-abducted. The good thing for you is, you'll
enjoy the anal probe.

For
example, the Apollo defenders might ask,

"Well, if the astronauts didn't go to the moon, then where did they
film
the moon landing?"
For those of you who are familiar with the 9/11 attack, this is
equivalent
to people asking:
"Well, if Flight 77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, where is it?"

We don't have to know where Flight 77 is in order to prove that it did
not
hit the Pentagon, and we don't have to know all the details about Apollo
in
order to prove that the moon landing was a fake.


Sure you do. A flight disappeared, with the wife of the Solicitor
General of the United States. Numerous people from that flight made
cellular phone calls. Where are they?


Reflectors on the moon are not proof!


They are lots more proof than any of the bull**** YOU'VE provided.


As another example, the Apollo defenders will tell us there is a
reflector
on the moon.


Yes, you just said that. Are a ****ing echo, or what? "Deja vu, all
over again..."


However, the Russians supposedly dropped a reflector on the moon with an
unmanned spacecraft. The Americans also sent unmanned probes to the
moon.

A reflector on the moon does not prove people landed on the moon.
Instead,
it only proves that there is a reflector on the moon.


But how do you KNOW that there REALLY is a reflector on the moon? The
radiation there is much too hot for a reflector to exist all these
years. And the reflector is TOO BIG to fit in any rocket. And the
aliens TOLD ME that THEY put the reflector there, right next to the
face on MArs!


Besides, where is the proof that a reflector is on the moon? The people
who
claim there is a reflector are the same people who tell us fire brought
down
the World Trade Center buildings.


See! I hadn't even read your post this far, and I guessed what ****
you were going to shovel.


There is no shortage of liars, idiots, and fools in our government and
universities.


But even this supply falls short of those on USENET, like you.


Who was on the "moon"?

Bart Sibrel shows that Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Michael Collins
were
circling the earth at the time they were supposedly halfway to the moon.

This brings up the question, if the astronauts were circling the earth
the
entire time, who was on the "moon"?

Two possibilities a

A) The astronauts on the "moon" were actors.
B) NASA had filmed the moon landing weeks in advance.

Bart Sibrel selects option A. He thinks that the astronauts circling the
Earth were providing the audio and the actors on the moon were silent.

However, to confuse the issue, there is a video of a light fixture
falling
down just as Armstrong is about to step onto the moon's surface:
video.google docid=2978000599933199881

Bart Sibrel believes that video was created by a filmmaker for a joke,
although he acknowledges that a government may have created it in order
to
discredit the theories that the Apollo moon landing was faked.

However, if that video clip was from a rehearsal of the moon landing,
that
means the moon landing was filmed before the Apollo 11 spacecraft was
launched.

What do you think?


That you are an idiot.


Why don't the Russians expose the Apollo Moon hoax?


Becuase they know it was true. They motnitored all of the radio
transmissions, and had all the skills necessary to locate the source.


My assumption was that the Russians did not want to expose Apollo
because
America could retaliate by exposing some of their crimes, as I wrote
he
RebuttalsToScienceChallenge.html


But all of the crimes of the Soviet Union had long since been exposed,
yet sycophants and apoligists (like YOU) always ignored the
"evidence". Wouldn;t this exposure of "Crimes" be just as suspect as
911 or the Moon Landings?


Bart Sibrel points out that the Russians -- and other nations -- would
not
want to expose Apollo because they would prefer to blackmail the
American
government.


You really need to learn more about history.


Are the Astronauts happy with themselves?


Of course - they worked very hard and succeeeded at an extremely
dangerous, and THEY at aleast knew how to take a ****ing PHOTOGRAPH.


There were six different teams of astronauts that landed on the moon;
namely, Apollo 11 through Apollo 17, with Apollo 13 only circling the
moon.

I suppose the astronauts imagine themselves as special, but have they
been
enjoying life since the returned from the moon? Are the astronauts proud
of
what they have done to America?

None of the astronauts seem happy. Instead, they seem to hiding from us,
like criminals.


No, they are "hiding" because they are private citrizens, who don;t
want to be annoyed by asshole dicklickers like you.


I suggest you consider that the astronauts are Useful Idiots; fools,
suckers, losers. And they have brought tremendous harm to America.


YOU are the loser. What have YOU accomplished? Nothing. You barely
graduated from high school, if you even got that far. YOU are too much
of a coward to serve your country in the military, and far too stupid
to even take candid fotos with an instamatic camera.. Are YOU happy,
flipping burgers at McDonalds, or cleaning out public toilets?


David Wolper, a friend of Neil Armstrong, and Penn and Teller, are
probably
the few people laughing about Apollo:


Liar. Post one statement by Penn or Teller thaty suggest for a SECOND
that they believe an idiot like YOU.


. Axis_of_Perverts2.html

. DoesDavidWolperHaveRedeemingSocialValue.html

Why do UFOs promoters also promote Apollo?

Most of the 9/11 truth seekers defend or ignore Apollo. Most of the
people
who believe in UFOs and crop circles also defend or ignore Apollo. Is
this a
coincidence? Why don't any of them expose Apollo?


Because believing in UFO's takes enough lunatic energy for any one
person.


I think most of the 9/11 truth seekers and UFO promoters are working for
the
same criminal network. The UFO people may have helped with the Apollo
landing, and they may have been involved in building this UFO craft:http://www.iamthewitness.com/FlyingS...ngSaucers.html

Astronauts Gone Wild

Bart Sibrel also made a video called Astronauts Gone Wild. In this video
he
tracks down many of the astronauts and tries to get them to talk about
the
moon landing and swear on a Bible that they actually did go to the moon.
Information about it is at:www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie


Yeh, and old man Buzz Aldrin punched him in the face. And assault
charges were quickly dropped. Why don;t YOU go uip to BUZZ - I'd love
to see him deck you, too, pussy.


The last astronaut in the video pushes Bart and his cameraman out of his
house, but he accidentally leaves his microphone on. The astronaut's son
can
be heard asking his father:

"Do you want to call the CIA and have them waxed?"


Most likely a joke - too bad!


Is it possible that the astronauts have been told that they will be
given
any protection they need, including the murder of people who try to
expose
the Apollo hoax?


You flatter yourself that you are important enough to kill. You are
dying quickly enough flipping burgers at Mickey D's.


In such a case, the phone calls at the CIA office must be interesting:

Good morning! CIA headquarters. May I help you?
Connect me to George Tenet.


He's not the CIA Director anymore, ****head.


Sir, he is in a meeting. Who is calling?

I'm one of the Apollo astronauts! I don't care if what the meeting is!
Get
him! Now!

Hello?

Hey, George, I want you to wax someone. His name is Bart Sibrel. He
lives
in Tennessee. This time... uh,... don't shoot him! Drown him in the
Mississippi River. And hurry it up!

Yes, Sir! Would you like a beverage with that waxing?

Don't be a smart ass, or I'll have you drowned also, like that other
smart
ass, Dulles.

That was Colby, not Dulles. Didn't you watch the Desperate Wives video
at
HugeQuestions.com?

I don't remember your f'ing names! Just shut up and do your job!

For more information on Apollo
. Science Challenge 24www.EricHufschmid.net/Science_Challenge_24.html

. Apollo Moon Hoax, pdf documenthttp://members.aol.com/PainfulQuestions/ApolloMoonHoax.pdf

. Hints for the Science Challengeswww.EricHufschmid.net/MoreInfoForScienceChallenge.html

. Why do these "truth seekers" lie about Apollo?www.EricHufschmid.net/ApolloLiars.html

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