On Mar 5, 8:16 am, "Ben" wrote:
Ah so it's N35.539 E90.126 (or, if you really must E90.126 N35.539 )

No, it's W90.126. E 90.126 would place me near the city of
Xigaze in Tibet.

we shall consider *west* longitudes as positive.

Actually I consider it a *hour angle* as well. I place it first
because longitudes are more problematic than latitudes.
(Recall Harrison's clock)


A person who thinks longitudes are problematic in respect to the
correlation between the standard pace of clocks and geographical
seperation amounting to 4 minutes/1 degree of Longitude.

Is there some perverted satisfaction in being numbskulls for there is
absolutely no difficulty in determining how the average 24 hour day,a
human creation,was overlayed on the heliocentric principles which
recognises axial rotation as the cause of a daily cycle.

Is there some nobel prize for having the ability to ignore a basic
astronomical fact and building concepts on the wrong correlation which
keep clocks in sync with axial rotation,at least for pragmatic
purposes.

I would say humanity is in big trouble when it can afford to undo the
work of many careful and brilliant men and accept a false late 17th
century correlation that exists only in the imagination -

"... our clocks kept so good a correspondence with the Heavens that I
doubt it not but they would prove the revolutions of the Earth to be
isochronical... " John Flamsteed.

What an incredible sight,an entire group of people who cannot even
discern the factors involved in the creation of the 24 hour day,it
adaption to the axial rotational cycle as a correlation and the active
promotion of an imaginary celestial sphere/constellational system
representing axial/orbital dynamics rather than a calendrically driven
observational convenience that it actually is.

You want time to become familiar with the two step process involving
the human devised Equation of Time correction which is central to the
creation of the equable 24 hour day and subsequently the way
heliocentric timekeepers exploited it in order to mesh clock pace with
axialo rotation as a principle thereby creating the spectacular 4
minutes/1 degree correlation.

Christianity and faith is a matter of intutive intelligence and most
good and genuine people have it,there is no exception here in this
forum.A genuine astronomer will catch brief glimpses of the old
approach and new avenues simultaneously and this is applied to matters
of faith also ,always has -

http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/mark/mark4.htm

I never doubted that people are aware of the correct correlation which
keeps clocks in sync with axial rotation at 24 hours/360 degrees but I
already know that it depends on the availible fertile intutive ground
to turn this small seed into something productive.The idea of "hearing
and seeing" in Christian terms is far more intense than just visual
recognition for all the mysteries of existence are contained in the
experience of joy and admiration.We are astronomers by living by the
cycles of the Earth and it is about time people did not try to force
artificial cycles which rob the appreciation of our recognition of not
just the human creation of the 24 hour day but also recognition that
our ancestors knew that no two cycles were the same length.

Presently you fail to match those great people who left the
timekeeping systems we use today hence you ultimately insult
yourselves in the barren and sterile fruit borne of the 'sidereal'
seed.










35.539 90.126 (given the similar convention of having N positive)

That's OK too.



- don't rub it in.

... as the intern said to the president from Arkansas... :-)

Did she say THAT?

Regards
Ben
06 00.5h n 35.539