(Hallerb) wrote in message ...

This is also instead our of messing up another good thing by
terriforming Venus (of which we know little if anything about doing,
at least not without our inflicting far more harm than good)

How could we damage venus in any fashion?

Even using it as a nuclear dumping ground would not affect anyone... Although I
dont recommend it.

Since many respected researchers (even of those well documented within
NASA) conclude that Venus wasn't always so hot and nasty, that the
surface once held at least shallow oceans or a few relatively large
ponds and, those same researchers seem to have been stipulating that
the transition of global warming took millions of years, so even if
that warming trend took but a few thousand years, that's certainly
sufficient time for Darwin to kick in, and/or for anyone smart enough
to do something about salvaging their sorry butts. Even a village
idiot, such as myself, should have been capable of putting two and two
together, such as if there were a rapid 1°K upward shift per year
(that's still 420+ years worth), of then utilizing whatever remaining
resources to their advantage (unlike Mars, Venus still has lots of
energy resources).


Here's another respectfully kind thought; creating TRACE-II instead of
any stinking space elevator or of terriforming Venus.

Instead of our badly terraforming good old Venus, or even opting for a
spendy lunar or more so Earth se; how about our configuring and
shipping off an affordable and relatively compact TRACE-II, one that's
outfitted with a few of those solid state 5W lasers and of numerous
single channel photon detectors, being about 1/10th the Magellan
investment and of not 1% the operational overhead. All and all, that's
not even postage for the paper work related to accomplishing any space
elevator, much less terraforming Venus.

Station keeping the TRACE-II at Venus L2 (VL2) is not hardly even
rocket science anymore. Utilizing this instrument as a relay platform
for various communications while the optical features of TRACE-II goes
about imaging the visible portion of the sun and of its coronasphere
is hardly an insignificant opportunity. The CCD camera and associated
optics and filters are well proven, the resolution and range of scan
speed is way more than sufficient, it's entirely proven and best of
all, the original TRACE is about due for a replacement. So, the entire
TRACE team will not have to be retired and, this new vantage point of
VL2 is nearly ideal for accomplish certain tasks that the original
instrument was not only handicapped but much further away. The
TRACE-II could have an even more capable CCD of perhaps 4 times as
much resolution plus being upon average 0.275 AU closer to their
target. That at least 8 fold improvement in solar imaging, not to
mention the other aspects of what TRACE-II could accomplish for
essentially pennies on the dollar.

So, why waste all the time and billions if not trillions trying to
goto places ill suited for humans, especially of such frozen and
irradiated to death locations such as Mars, or of otherwise putting
nearly all of our eggs into one of those horrific space elevators,
when we can simply send off a few complex binary message packets
(local laser area code no less) such as asking "what's up?" or perhaps
"how hot is it?", then monitor for their reply, seems like a whole lot
more bang for the buck or euro and best of all, of not one roasted
astronaut.
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/laser-com.htm

Less spendier yet will be of accomplishing the Moon-SAR imaging but,
that's not nearly as much fun as accomplishing any two-way
interplanetary call: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/moon-sar.htm

The lunar space elevator and our NExT CM/ISS perhaps isn't 1% of
accomplishing any Earth based space elevator, but that lunar SE
prospect is still talking in terms of tens of billions. That's
certainly far more than I've got.
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-cm-ccm-01.htm

Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS~GASA / Discovery of LIFE on Venus
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm