On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:57:09 GMT, Brian Thorn
wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:22:25 +0100, Cardman
wrote:

Ah I knew it was somewhere, but have they really got enough salt mines
to store all that oil?

Evidently, you have no comprehension of the size of the United States.

The size of the US and volume of Salt Mines are two different factors.

We in the UK have our own oil in the North Sea.

We in the US have considerable oil resources in the Gulf of Mexico,
Texas, Oklahoma, and Alaska.

I see.

Holy Simple History Batman. You do realize there's a lot more than this to
it. In fact it involves, you guessed it, OIL.

Naturally. Not long now before this evil stuff runs out. :-]

The earliest estimates (from the Greens and others) say 35 years from
now.

And I am sure that the oldest and most tapped oil fields have already
ran dry, but lets not forget that as more second and third world
countries become developed, then that demand on oil will grow.

Well 2038 here we come...

Ok, so it was a bad idea for Iraq to do that, but you have to wonder
how much Kuwaiti oil played a part. Then these days the U.S has
"freed" the oil in Iraq for the benefit of the people, but no sign of
those weapons of mass destruction yet.

Iraq is a huge country to search,

Ever thought about using technology? As it is not like they have to
personally turn over every rock.

And I am sure that loads of scientists are only happy to spill the big
secret of where the biological and chemical weapons are stored for a
chance of a better life.

Then here we are months later without a smoking gun in sight.

Maybe people should face the fact that maybe there are no WMD, where
then you will see that this is all about getting rid of Saddam who
annoyed someone's daddy.

nearly twice the size of your UK,and
the job isn't easy with radicals running around throwing grenades at
you.

Radicals?

More US propaganda I see. Try you average Iraqi civilian who are
simply very annoyed at the US occupation of their country. As they
know that the more US troops who die the faster they will go away.

Also that would make for one incredibly dumb search. Using
intelligence and technology would soon find it in no time.

USA: 9,629,091 sq.km.
Iraq: 437,000 sq. km.
UK: 244,820 sq. km.

Once Saddam is confirmed dead

Dead? Reports are around that he has been captured, which makes it a
little unjust to now execute him.

and the Iraqis believe it,

The Iraqi people already know that he is gone for good.

people will
come out of the woodwork to tell us where the WMD is buried.

Just offer them lots of money, a new identity, then a place for them
and their family to live in the U.S or elsewhere.

After all two of Saddam's sons were killed for a fairly small amount
of money leading to the intelligence of where they were.

You may need to face the fact that maybe there are no WMD. Or at least
Saddam's personal emergency stocks would have been destroyed long
before this War came about.

Funny how the U.S has crap loads of WMDs. And they have even used them
on civilians once before.

The man terrorised his people for decades,

Welcome to the world of a dictator.

Also most people there would just go on with their lives unaffected,
when it is just a case of avoiding getting in the way of those with
power.

You should also remember that the U.S uses propaganda a lot, when the
truth in Iraq is not how they make out.

The US lie.
The UK lie.
Iraq lies.

Only by listening to all sides can you know the truth.

For example on the day that Iraq TV and Al-Jazeera showed those dead
and captured US soldiers (I saw it as it happened), then the worst
thing I saw that day was not those scenes.

As the worst thing I saw that day was of a little Iraqi girl of about
six years old who had been killed by the US bombings. When they first
showed her she had a towel over her face, but they soon removed it to
show that she died due to fact that the top of her head was completely
blown off.

That received no mention at all on western news stations for obvious
propaganda reasons, when it was all about the US soldiers and how they
could dare show such scenes.

Well I can only say that these western leaders would be dumb if they
did not know that this is just a cultural thing, when the Middle East
stations simply show death and destruction as it happens, when they do
not censor their news.

Yes, this is a more barbaric society, where those most in need of
being locked up are those who are often in power, but that is what the
vast majority of human history has been like until modern times.

Then lets not forget how many people the trade embargo killed, when
the UN oil for food program only came about after it became a problem.

Also you have only to read your own headlines to know that the U.S,
and other countries like my own, are not perfect either. Corruption,
the police beating civilians and some really bad things can happy
while in the care of the government.

Anyway, I have a question for you. As who has killed more Iraqi
civilians; Saddam and his followers, or these military actions lead by
the U.S?

and they're not going to believe he's truly gone until they see his
rotting carcass on TV.

Ever thought that is could just be a US based excuse for not finding
WMD yet?

After all people can see for themselves how things have changed, where
for example people are buying satellite dishes faster than they can be
imported.

And if people hated Saddam as much as the US would like you to
believe, then you would have your WMD by now.

Anyway I am only happy to tell you the truth, when the WMD are indeed
an excuse, when he would be lucky to find them. What this is all about
is that Iraq does not like the US, your president is on his 9/11
crusade against his enemies, where he also hopes that doing this will
solve all those Middle East problems.

So in all he simply wants to make the World a better place, but a lot
of people are sure going to die for him to get his wish.

Yes Iraq is now better off, but the dead and the families of those
dead won't be thanking you. More likely you will pee them off and they
will bring you another 9/11.

Cardman.