Terrestrial research wizards such as the deductive expertise of
Velikovsky and a few others may actually have been on the right set of
tracks all along, whereas just having been a little skewed here and
there (forced into swag mode), and obviously without all of the
available history along with the nifty amounts of new and improved
science that's existing and well documented as of today. For one
example, ice-core samples that's going back nearly a million years, were
not a part of Velikovsky's research.
The mere dreaded revision thoughts of an icy ProtoMoon and of it's
lithobraking arrival is not another topic joke. I believe this
perfectly GW related topic simply represents the regular laws of physics
and the slim but otherwise reasonable odds of this event happening,
especially if such an icy ProtoMoon had been thrown our way from a
sufficiently nearby star/solar system, and as though gravity dragged
and/or accommodated into our solar system along with the arrival of
Venus (possibly as a moon as once having belonged to Venus).
I also tend to believe that "Earth w/o magnetosphere, w/o moon" is also
somewhat interrelated to one another, as well as having been unavoidably
interrelated to the somewhat recent arrival of our moon as having
established the global tilt that shifted us away from being a nearly
monoseason planet with only solar driven tides, and for otherwise as
having deposited quite a fair amount of salty ice plus a little
sequestered DNA code if not substantial other life within for the
environment of Earth to deal with.
In the distant past, our Earth was clearly a bit more surface
roundish/smooth as having hosted somewhat less vertically imposing
terrain from ocean depths to the peaks of mountainous creations that
transpired rather quickly (as though having been antipode induced into
existence), and certainly as having shown much less erosion as having
since been deposited into our oceans or as otherwise having to deal with
on land, and of what little surface water there was already here to
behold was much less salty and either extensively sub-frozen and/or at
least getting monoseason frosted enough as to reaching that icy line of
frost to within the tropics of Cancer/Capricorn. This nearly monoseason
of Earth's early environment was also allowing those early forms of
humanity to essentially staying put, demanding few if any migrations
except within the relatively temperate life zone as associated within
the Tropics of Cancer/Capricorn, that is unless something truly horrific
of geophysics emerged from within the planetology of Earth and/or of
mother nature's surface environment was taking place, whereas I believe
most everything north or south of their Cancer/Capricorn frost line
would have been at risk of having been compromised if not unlivable for
much of the time, especially throughout a typical ice-age deep freezing
cycle that lasted for a good ten to twenty some odd thousands of years
at a whack.
Here's the latest of topic related news that I'd thought you folks can
use, or perhaps not (depending on your mindset), as to my somewhat
dyslexic way of having contemplated on behalf of the most accepted
what-if our moon had in fact been made entirely of Earth, whereas of 1
Ga those resulting tidal affects would have been at least half if not
nearly twice again as impressive (if not nearly tsunami worthy), and of
2 Ga would have been generating those somewhat continuous tsunami class
of bulging tidal waves as worth a few good magnitudes of their having
been 5 to 10 times worse off than nowadays, not to mention what our
molten mantle being seriously motivated along via such horrific mascon
forces, as a somewhat super-rotation mass of thermal and magnetic force
taking place just below the crust of Earth.
If we gave our moon a supposed lifespan of being 4 Ga (4 billion years
old)
moon @0.0 Ga = 384,400 km from Earth / orbital energy 2e20 joules
moon @ -1 Ga = 332,000 km from Earth / orbital energy 3e20 joules
moon @ -2 Ga = 256,000 km from Earth / orbital energy 5e20 joules
moon @ -3 Ga = 192,000 km from Earth / orbital energy 8e20 joules
(possibly 1e21 joules)
moon @ -4 Ga = 0.0 km as supposedly emerging itself from Earth
(antipode launch force/energy at 6 km/s = 5.3e30 J ????
Secondary impact/antipode ejected mass 7.35e22 x 2 = 14.7e22 kg
(I'm using 2x the mass of our moon because not everything that goes up
would have become moon)
Geophysical whatever antipode launch exit velocity of roughly 6 km/s
Ke = .5MV2 7.35e22 x 36e6 = 265e28 joules
Kf = MV2 14.7e22 x 36e6 = 529e28 joules
Of course, silly Kroll and myself are perhaps still the two most
resident village idiots (AKA messengers from hell) as having been
leaning ourselves towards the more likely icy protomoon sort of impact,
as having delivered a very salty and rather substantially tera-iceberg
worth of a glancing sucker-punch (perhaps having involved more than one
such lithobraking and lunar iceberg deploying encounter) that which
established the major extent of Earth's tilt (thereby having created
seasons) and otherwise having subsequently produced the likes of our
Arctic ocean basin and/or Hudson Bay, along with the geophysical
antipode result having produced the sorts of horrific vertical land mass
and otherwise extremely mountainous terrain, as having been rather
abruptly pushed up at roughly those 180 degree longitude/latitude
antipode locations, with lots of other interesting geophysics taking
place in between.
Since there's no apparent scientific nor physics related argument
against really big and nasty stuff having in fact impacted Earth from
time to time, and since the regular laws of physics and/or of
planetology should not have changed, whereas this icy ProtoMoon arrival
as of the last ice age seems to offer a viable degree of it's own
what-if on behalf of representing a perfectly rational set of arguments,
that's at least worth keeping on the public table so that others having
an honest thought from their open mindset might constructively
contribute as to sharing their expertise or best swag, instead of merely
enforcing upon and/or hiding behind the usual mainstream naysayism, and
of otherwise having to apply evidence denial and/or total author/topic
banishment upon this argument.
How Asteroids Trigger Volcanos / By Robert Roy Britt
A few other words of wisdom about Earth getting a serious hicky via
asteroid;
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._030204-1.html
Unfortunately, this author doesn't contribute anything as to whatever a
glancing blow via an icy protomoon might have represented. Therefore,
whatever horrific impact created ocean basins and/or antipode results
are not a part of this equation. However the following sub-topic is at
least an honest consideration as to what such a impactor of having
produced local and/or antipode induced event(s) might have helped to
have created the likes of Hawaii.
Asteroid May Have Created Hawaii
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...id_010731.html
"Rocking the other side of the planet"
"Mark Boslough and his colleagues at Sandia National Laboratories have
modeled asteroid impacts. In a 1996 paper, they predicted that the
seismic energy from an impact travels through the Earth and is strongly
focussed at the antipode to the impact, near the boundary of the crust
and the hot, molten mantle."
Of course mountains that were not created via volcanic process and are
less old than you'd think, and seemingly as having been created within
an extremely short amount of time, whereas these horrific vertical
formations seem as though more antipode generated than not.
This somewhat testy "Icy ProtoMoon" and of it's "Lithobraking Arrival"
as an ongoing research topic represents that within my open mindset
there's a great deal of our past, present and future that's at stake of
getting revised, of which nearly everything under the sun that's
apparently orbiting our infomercial bulging and otherwise badly polluted
flat Earth is at risk of falling off the edge, such as most everything
from their Old Testament certified 'Big Bang' theory to that of our
supposedly having walked on the moon is at risk. Sorry about that.
Secondly, clearly my extremely poor old PC and that of my limited
Mailgate/Usenet access are still each getting summarily stalked, trashed
and/or terminated via spermware/****ware at every possible turn in this
extremely bumpy Usenet road, as though I'm somehow the ultimate bad guy
that's responsible for rocking a bit more than my fair share of their
good ship LOLLIPOP.
I totally agree with the few and far between likes of 'tomcat', such as
focusing our clearly limited though honestly deductive research talents
and zilch worth of resources upon reviewing the notion of placing such a
super-sized whopper of a worthy mascon that's representing such a nearby
moon into orbiting a given icy monoseason planet, that which otherwise
still has a good amount of a fluid core and at least some degree of
surface fluids (including the surrounding atmosphere) to work with, that
can obviously be influenced and/or tidal forced, simply has to involve
an ongoing taking of and/or giving process of transferring energy as
related to the unavoidable gravity/tidal physics, for the very same
reason why a satellite as set into safely orbiting our nearly naked moon
is eventually dragged to it's demise unless having applied ION or some
other means of reaction thrust. Therefore, the orbital mechanics of
mascon physics as related to global warming is very real.
A three body worth of such interactive mascon orbital physics seems all
the more complex, and that of a forth body situation is nearly as
complicated and supercomputer worthy task as astrophysics tends to get
(especially if such were involving various Lithobraking events). I
happen think we're dealing with at the very least a 5+ multi-body
situation, along with all sorts of complex variables. (sorry about that)
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Brad Guth
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