As per ususal, this topic isn't even going anywhere because, others and
myself are right. As such, here's another related sub-topic that's
worth tossing into this Usenet ring of fire.

Some folks think it's already too late, and perceive that we're still
way too addictive to energy that's being extracted and otherwise
produced via some of the dirtiest known and otherwise soot, NOx plus
many other toxin producing methods. I think we're just downright greedy
little perverted *******s that really don't give a damn about others or
that of our failing environment, that's about to get yet another slap in
the face from our badly failing magnetosphere. Too bad our DNA isn't
getting rad-hard.

The birth to grave cycle of global fossil energy exploitation (including
yellowcake) is basically taking us into that very same grave along with
our past, current and future ways that don't seem to be changing soon
enough to make a difference. Instead of having been honestly investing
in the future of cleaner and abundant energy, we're still investing in
the dirty past that's killing us.

This one even has our supposed environmental avenger Roger Coppock
dumbfounded past the point of no return, much like the matter of our
somewhat recently obtained moon having caused most of the last thaw via
gravity/tidal forces plus having contributed a little extra IR/FIR to
boot. Too bad so many folks like Roger can't think inside or much less
outside the cozy little box that has been orchestrated as though
constructed around our dumb and dumber mindsets, in that we have to
believe in anything that's GOOGLE/NOVA or MI/NSA~NASA.

"Exxon Stockholders Liable for Global Warming Damages"
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HUGE MELTED LAKE IN BEAUFORT SEA!

http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/sc...ma ilgate.org

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...4eeb1ff70466f1

: This freshwater lake of melted ice is a thermal battery. That is, it
: has absorbed 96,126,250,000 Megajoules of HEAT in the act of meting.
: In order to refreeze it must emit that heat to the atmosphere. The
: battery has been charged.
The freshwater has a depth of 3 meters, which is too shallow not to have
mixed with the brine beneath. Therefore the freezing temperature has been
lowered and additional energy must be extracted from the battery before
refreezing could occur.

The differential is 17.7 degrees C times the volume 2.88e14 grams for an
additional discharge of 5.0976e15 calories of heat energy must be emitted
to the air before the lost ice is fully refrozen.

The net total is 5.0976e15 plus 2.295936e16 calories = 2.805696e16
calories of heat energy released to the air.

2.805696e16 calories = 1.175066e11 MegaJoules = 117,606,600,000 MJ.

2.805696e16 calories = 1.175066e17 Joules

In terms of Nukes the Fat Man and Little Boy atomic bombs (15.08e13
Joules)...

... 779 pairs of atomic bombs like Hiroshima and Nagasaki going of this
winter in the Arctic. One should reasonably prepare for some energetic
kinetics as a result.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaton
A megaton of TNT is 4.184e15 joules = 4.184 petajoules (PJ).
" This is 28 million tons of TNT set to blast. "

Absolutely impressive, and I totally agree that it's all about to
explode big-time in our highly bigoted, arrogant and greedy little
fossil fuel burning and soot producing faces, not to mention the
discarded Radium from yellowcake, coal and other deep geophysical energy
resources that's now into our surface environment along with all of the
megatonnes/year worth of NOx from hell.

Too bad we're all too dumb and dumber, along with having been so easily
snookered and subsequently dumbfounded as to even so much as realize how
totally snookered and summarily dumfounded we all are, and how soon some
of us are going to become prematurely dead and/or seriously broke as a
direct result.

The likes of ExxonMobile should be damn proud of themselves, just like
all of those lethal tobacco drug pushers of internal soot and of
numerous carsonagenics that are currently licensed to kill, and there's
absolutely no doubt that as such they're each doing just that while
turning a hefty profit.

There's next to nothing going into R&D of He3/fusion energy, or much
less the worth of what the nearby moon L1 of unlimited clean energy has
to offer. Even the superior terrestrial worth of wind derived energy
isn't but hardly a prototype of what a serious wind turbine application
has to offer, and of solar PV plus the thermal dynamic Stirling
alternatives that could easily share the base/foundation of those very
same wind turbine towers is apparently taboo/nondisclosure because,
apparently it's all too squeaky clean and too much 100% renewable
without hardly a stitch of repercussions.

Basalt insulation of R-1024/m that's potentially as structural as you'd
care to make it and essentially fire-proof is apparently yet another
taboo/nondisclosure little tidbit of what humanity and that of our
failing environment is never going to see, much less of extremely
compact hybrid batteries operating on hydrogen peroxide and aluminum, or
better internal combustion via h2o2/c12h26 or damn near any viable
combination (including biofuels) you'd care to mix that'll represent a
near zero soot factor as well as zilch worth if any of NOx because, the
mostly nitrogen atmosphere itself isn't getting consumed. God forbid
that we should ever have a surplus of such environmentally clean energy
to put into the makings, storage and distributions of such nifty
products as LH2 or h2o2, and of subsequently making the consumption of
damn near everything else so much more efficient and so much cleaner,
not to mention biologically and environmentally so much end-user
friendly.
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Brad Guth


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