Giant Waffle ha escrito:

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 02:21:42 GMT, David Johnston
you decided to say:


On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:49:00 GMT, Giant Waffle
wrote:

On 24 Sep 2006 16:09:03 -0700, "Gene Ward Smith"
you decided to say:


Gene (May I call you Gene?),

I hope you aren't personally offended by my response,
but you were very blunt in your post and so, I will also
be quite blunt in my response. Please understand, it is
not meant as an attack.


Sound of Trumpet wrote:

The big bang today relies on a growing number
of hypothetical entities, things that we have never
observed-- inflation, dark matter and dark energy
are the most prominent examples.

If they are needed to explain observations, then why
doesn't that count as being observed?

Because they weren't "observed".

Science is _full_ of things that are the product of indirect
observation but are still very useful.

You can make all of the claims you want, but you have not
provided any facts. You know what I said is true, which is
why you snipped it and falsely claimed that dark matter is
indirectly observed.

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Giant Waffle

After seeing the way that usenet is, I post this word
of advice as my signature...

I don't bother with peoples' railing comments, nor with
comments meant to distract from the discussion, because
you are unable to answer the hard questions that may arise
as a response to claims that you might make, nor do I play
games with God's word.

If you wish to be rude, go find a mirror and see if the
person you see there would appreciate it. And if the
person you find in that mirror wouldn't, then you know
why I have ended my conversation with you. Rather,
I have chosen to ignore and forget you, at least until
you learn some common decency and respect.

And yes, there is a difference between being insulting
and being direct. And no, that does not mean that being
insulting and calling it "the truth" means that you are
being direct. It means that you are being insulting.

Do not pretend to be my brother, while stabbing me in
the back and then quoting Bible verses that speak of
good men, falsely applying them to yourself, as those
who are wolves in sheep's clothing often do. (:

This obviously does not apply to everyone. Just to those
who wish to act in the manner described. To the rest,
please ignore this word of advice.

well, well.
neutrinos were not observed in the first place. They were deducted
from the spreading of energy in beta decay from some atoms. Physicists
are having trouble with the observation and the theory of neutrinos.
In the same way, dark matter was also a deduction from some
observations in astronomy. Thye had to postulate the existence of dark
matter to explain certain effects observed. If they have already found
or not, any evidence of dark matter, this something irrelevant for the
moment. They will find it in the future if they can, or perhaps they
never would do. This is science. Not all are observations, but there
are alos some asumptions and some deductions. But scientist are men,
and men are fallible. Not like the writers of the Holy Books, if they
were fallible, they would have corrected already the thousands of
serious mistakes that are written in their holy books.
But a writer inspired by the gods, can not commit errors, so they are
not going to change a comma or erase any error whatever. By example,
the geneology of Jesus, that is totally fake. We know it is fake,
because there are two of them. But are they going to accept this is
something wrong? No! They are infallible, like the Pope of Rome.
They seem to me a bunch a cretins.
Leopoldo