I see that this topic is still being avoided like the worse plague on
Earth. In that case I'll keep contributing as best I can.
Now here's another honest man from naysayville that's after at least
part my own global warming heart.
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Earl; Not "not global warming". It is "not manmade global warming"
Earl; We have been in Global Warming ever since the Little Ice
Age ended around 1850. Well over half the temperature rise that
the Greens shrill about occured before WW2. Whereas the majority
of the CO2 that is the blame was consumed after 1980.
I obviously don't entirely agree with the "not manmade global warming",
as that's been more than proven via replicated science to have been a
contributing factor, although I'm thinking it could represent as little
as 10% of the ongoing root cause.
The rather unfortunate "sun is a variable star!!" logic is only ever so
slightly correct, but not nearly sufficient nor in any way proven as
even having been nearly sufficient to have fluctuated by such an extent
unless you're talking about that sucker going absolutely postal on us,
and otherwise having been a passive bonfire as of those multi-thousand
year ice age dips.
And the infomercial wars of our mainstream status quo that's wagging thy
dogs to death continues, as though we've got all the necessary smarts as
is, plus all time in the world, and it's also as though our physiucally
dark moon that has supposedly been with us from the very beginning has
absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with our ongoing thaw from the last
ice age. However, what if our moon had only arrived as of 10,500 BC?
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"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
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HUGE MELTED LAKE IN BEAUFORT SEA!
Last year, scientists at NASA and the NSIDC reported the most
extensive summer meltdown of Arctic sea ice on record, and an
acceleration in the rate of its long-term decline.
In a new study reported last week, NASA researcher Josefino Comiso
found that the Arctic's winter ice is also in decline, and at an
accelerating rate.
The ice cap is crucial because it helps regulate the planet's
temperature. Its bright surface reflects 80 percent of the solar
energy that strikes it, sending it back into space.
Climatologists say a smaller ice cap will reflect less solar energy
and expose more open water, which is darker and absorbs 90 percent
of the solar energy that falls on it. It heats up, holds more of that
heat from year to year, and makes it harder for ice to form again in
the fall and winter.
So Arctic temperatures rise. From January through August 2005, they
were 3.6 to 5.4 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the long-term average
across most of the region.
I have to concur that's all very true, in that the darker Earth becomes
(especially ocean darkness as opposed to icy/snowy white), the more
solar energy gets absorbed, whereas instead of taking in as little as
10%, it goes to as great as 90% absorbson. Frozen tundra that's now
becoming extensively thawed is simply adding further insult to injury in
more ways than being of less snow and ice covered, and those ever
expanding dead zones of oceans are now limited to being populated with
jellyfish, if there's anything.
Of more cloud coverage by night and less by day is also creating a
somewhat energy collecting/storage environment, whereas by day the solar
energy obtains more unobstructed access to the darker albedo of Earth,
while at night the added moisture that gets placed into our atmosphere
by day becomes clouds by night which only retains the solar influx more
effectively.
But in spite of all else, there's also the nearby orbiting mascon worth
of our physically dark moon to take into account, and at this point I'm
not even talking about whatever amounts of reflected IR and of it's
emitted FIR that's also unavoidably contributed into our warming
environment.
That nearby mascon moon of ours could be representing as great as 90% of
our continuing thaw, or perhaps as little as 75% responsible, whereas
either way it's inevitable that Earth will continue to thaw and
subsequently continues to global warm itself, along with our help of
uncontrolled pillaging, raping and polluting of mother Earth is how
it'll simply accomplish this task a whole lot sooner rather than later.
0.1% of the 2e20 joules worth of mascon force as the potential energy
resource is worth an average of 390 J/m2 upon the surface of Earth. Do
you folks really think that it's limiited to merely 0.1% of the moon's
gravity force and of those subsequent tidal affects that are getting
converted via friction into thermal energy?
Do you really think that such mascon induced ocean currents and thus
terrific tides and subsequent currents are not responsible for
expediting the ongoing thermal moderation (warm energy going towards the
cold) of our global environment?
Do you really think that such a terrific gravitational applied force
that has been rotating about Earth isn't inducing the gradual
super-rotation of our molten mantle, that's situated a relatively short
distance below our feet?
Do you really think that such a terrific mascon affect isn't in any way
related to the ongoing platetonics and subsequent friction/energy
release plus having unavoidably contributed gaseous elements that emerge
to the surface, into our oceans and simply contribute to the atmosphere
from time to time?
I'm not saying that humanity is outside the loop of what's cooking our
goose. I'm simply giving you folks additional tools to appreciate the
ongoing demise that's primarily caused by our moon.
In other words, you should be 100% correct that global warming is
getting rather badly accelerated because of our own doings, and unless
we can moderate our ways and at the same time obtain greater amounts of
clean energy for our personal use without further pillaging and raping
Mother Earth, as such we're not going to get away with this fiasco
forever, and unfortunately most of us can not afford to keep finding
higher and safer ground, along with alternative resources of food and
energy.
Unfortunately, our education system is anything but. Of what we seem to
know is basically infomercial-history that's supported by way of
infomercial-science that's based extensively upon conditional physics,
and it's otherwise media driven down our throats and up our butts at the
commands of those encharge of such matters.
Such honest topics are being topic/author stalked, bashed and as much as
possible banished away from the GOOGLE/Usenet moderated groups is merely
the extra proof-positive that we're more than sufficiently right, as
otherwise why all the Usenet damage-control fuss and flak each and every
time we've posted another substantiated global warming topic, or much
less anything that's having to do with our moon or even Venus?
There's absolutely no question that Earth's continuing thaw from the
last ice age is transpiring before our mostly dumbfounded eyes, and it's
the few and far between folks like Roger Coppock that have seen the
light of how much of that thaw can be directly attributed to human
factors, though seemingly unable to translate that into practical
actions that'll make a worthy difference. Educating the public via this
mostly naysay Usenet anti-think-tank that's focused upon wagging those
poor dogs to death, is not going to happen unless the likes of Roger
Coppock and others of his kind can manage to kick a few extra butts, and
unfortunately the New York Times and of similar publications wouldn't so
much as dare print anything we've had to say because of their insider
clients and otherwise status quo or bust sponsors would either sue their
socks off and/or merely extract any future financial support, the
largest of which being our very own state and federal governments and/or
of those numerous government/public sponsored institutions, that upon
average is what pays for the most infomercial column inches.
Too bad that so much of our supposedly educated masses are those
snookered and thus dumb and dumber than merely dumbfounded.
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Brad Guth
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