kenseto wrote:
ROTFLOL....Most SRians in these NGs don't understand SR.

For Example:
1. SRian PD and Randy said that length contraction is real and measurable
and SRian Roberts said that length contraction is a geometric effect much
like you see me to be shorter from a distance and I see you to be shorter
from a distance. A correct aether theory agrees with what Robert said with
qualification. A correct aether theory would say that the physical length of
a rod will remain the same in all frames. However the light path length of a
rod is different in different frames. The SR *projected length contraction*
is equivalent to *longer light path length* for a moving rod in the correct
aether theory. The correct aether theory also said that an *observed* rod
can have *shorter light path length* than the observ's rod...... SR has no
equivalent to this and that's why SR is incomplete.

Rotate the rod in a plane perpendicular to your line of sight. The rod
doesn't appear to change it's length. Now rotate the rod in one of the
two planes perpendicular to first plane and it will appear to undergo
length contraction. Is the rod actually shrinking? No. If you were
in the frame of the rod and kept measuring it's length, you would see
no change. That's whats called proper length. Same goes for lengths
and time in a hyperbolic Lorentz rotation.

2. SRian AllYou said: The passage of a clock second in any frame is exactly
the same as the passage of a clock second in every other frame. AllYou's
assertion disagrees with what Alan Lightman said in his book. In Alan
Lightman's book "Great Idea in Physics" he said: A second as measured by one
clock corresponds to less than a second as measured by another clock in
motion with respect to the first. A correct aether theory would agree with
what Lightman said with qualification. A correct aether theory would say
that a second as measured by one clock can correspond to *less than a
second* OR *more than a second* as measured by another clock in motion with
respect to the first.

You're confusing a time standard with the concept of time itself. A
second is defined exactly the same regardless of frame. Time
intervals, which are the number of seconds measured by a clock, are
what play a role in the Lorentz transformation. They will not be
frame-invariant.