kenseto wrote:
ROTFLOL....Most SRians in these NGs don't understand SR.

For Example:
1. SRian PD and Randy said that length contraction is real and measurable
and SRian Roberts said that length contraction is a geometric effect much
like you see me to be shorter from a distance and I see you to be shorter
from a distance.

Yes. Now if you can understand why those are equivalent
statements, you will have made progress.

2. SRian AllYou said: The passage of a clock second in any frame is exactly
the same as the passage of a clock second in every other frame.

Correct.

AllYou's
assertion disagrees with what Alan Lightman said in his book. In Alan
Lightman's book "Great Idea in Physics" he said: A second as measured by one
clock corresponds to less than a second as measured by another clock in
motion with respect to the first.

Is this an exact quote? It sounds more like Seto language than
something a physicist would say. Too vague to be interpreted
unambiguously.

- Randy