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My money's on wave-particle duality of gravity.

Be prepared to lose.

The wave portion of a particle's existence/
behavior is its interaction with "the field". If you
divorce gravitation from "the field", there is no
gravitation. Nothing to curve, no path.

And so the double-slit tells us - something
about fields ?

No, it tells us something about "the field". The
place that light passes through (the field) has/is
evidence of everything, no matter where it is.
(No pun intended.)

I got some fertilizer for that field of yours (heh heh)

Hmmmmm.

Yeah - it was uncalled for......

Gravitation is a warping of dimensional fabric.
No field needed.

"Dimensional fabric" cannot be divorced from the
matter and energy that caused it to exist. "The
field" and "dimensional fabric" are synonymous.
Gravitation occurs across the same "place" that
self-interference does.

Chicken or the Egg.

You guys

"You guys". I do not have a mouse in my pocket.

have got things backwards. Dimension does not
exist for the convenience of particles. It's the other
way around.

How is it that matter tells something separate from it how to
bend?

Matter - separate from dimension ? Impossible. That's what it's made
of.


I will place my money on gravitons being as
necessary to Nature as magnetic monopoles.
In other words, "it will be really simple if..."
but always non-detect.

And gravitons, if they exist, you would expect
them to be particles

By definition, yes. But then spacetime is
meaningless at the quantum level, so does
"curvature of meaningless" require a
quantum actor?

Not meaningless at all. It continuous and discrete.

Que? Those are antonyms, aren't they?


Were antonyms.


Spacetime is never meaningless. Trivial,
sometimes. Meaningless, never.

Quantum processes occur at all necessary speeds (not limited to
c). Quantum objects follow all possible paths. Therefore
spacetime contains no meaning in quantum mechanics.


Trivial dynamics can only occur in trivial spacetime. It has meaning.


David A. Smith